I second Yaroslav here. Last year it was very obvious how disconnected was
that strategy thing with the communities that actually build the projects.
All that reached wiki.pt were kind of obvious generalities without much to
tell about, which were generally ignored by the community. The Strategy
Working Groups that were created in July apparently follow on that
disconnection. Probably some day some alien stuff will be posted at our
Village Pump, and will be ignored again. What I feel is that members of the
community that are thinking in strategical terms (ways of fixing newbies,
new kind of activities, better and bigger engagement with educational and
cultural institutions, reaching out to rural communities, to minorities,
etc.) they can't count on that Strategy Groups for nothing, but rather
create their own if they really want to do something. It may be that I'm
limited, but I do fail to see much utility on those Working Groups, at
least for those communities that are not represented there. It looks like a
lot of resources wasted in something with a kind of doubtful utility.
Anyway, if I well understood, the only relation those Strategy Working
Groups have with the Wikimedia Summit is that they will be there with the
purpose of trying to reach to the representatives of the affiliates and
talk with them, and that's all. The rest will be between affiliates,
committees, etc.
Paulo
Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com> escreveu no dia quinta, 27/09/2018 à(s)
17:03:
Hi Michal,
thank you for your reaction. No, I am personally not interested in
attending the Wikimedia conference or whatever name it has now. I am
unhappy with that, from my viewpoint, the opinions of what is called
unorganized volunteers is discarded.
- On stage 1, I participated in some discussions in the projects. I do not
see any traces of that discussion in the final document. On one occasion,
we were told that we are not discussing what we should be discussing.
However, we are writing the content - if we thing smth is important, and if
this smth is strategic, I expect the functionaries which are getting salary
from the funds raised because of our input, to at least take it seriously
and not dismiss it. I reported the case here, I got responses of the type
"this is not good", and nothing happened.
- When the was a call for strategy groups, I applied and was rejected.
Other people applied and were rejected. The report of the selection
committee essentially says that there were too many unorganized volunteers.
(To give a bit of a background, I speak five languages, lived in four
countries, and active in four Wikimedia projects, but I am not a member of
any affiliate). Fine. Nobody complains there are too many unorganized
volunteers to create content
- Now the strategy will be discussed at a conference, and it will be
discussed at local events. But I am not interested in going to these
events. I am a content creator, highly involved in the project governance
(I have administrator flag on four projects and a crat flag on one).It is
ok if the strategy is being discussed at the meetings where mostly
functionaries go, but it should be discussed at the projects - where
content is created - and not just in the form of the approval of a text
which has been drafted elsewhere and already approved by functionaries. As
it stands, it will be strategy for functionaries. Do not then expect
projects to follow smth they have not been asked to participate in creation
of.
I am not really happy to antagonize functionaries and content creators,
especially since I respect a few of functionaries for what they have done
and are still doing on the projects (and some of them are heavily working
on content), but we have come across too many things in the recent years
which suggest that the opinions of the projects are not properly respected,
and the strategy thing is just one of them.
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 2:06 PM Michał Buczyński <sandbox(a)o2.pl> wrote:
Hi Yaroslav, I find your concern important so
let me attempt to refine
it to discussion points or a call for action. :) Firstly, I think it is
unwise to assume what "everyone is interested in". You don't
know personally all the people in the Movement, e.g. me and my interests.
If you meant some particular people or body, please voice it clearly and
we
can go from that point. Secondly, there were
signs showing people
interested in your input: 1. while creating and filling a
"diversity
matrix" to check if we cover all the
stakeholders, the
non-representatives of affiliates, WMF or other bodies (FDC, sAPG,
AffCom)
this issue has been raised - certainly for the
funds allocation group. I
am
not sure of the final outcome in terms of e.g.
inclusion of particular
names within the group (it is a pretty tricky to give some
representativeness without overblowing the groups) but I am sure the
strategy team has been working on this issue and can communicate
something.
:) 2. There are many ways to reaching out to the
wider audiences:
including surveys, online discussions, show and tell sessions (e.g. IIRC
on
Wikimania *all* strategic sessions, except the
organizational/briefing
for
the groups, were fully open for all conference
participants) and sessions
dedicated to particular communities. E.g. in my home Poland there were
strategy sessions for willing attendees of WMPL conferences, some
languages
also had dedicated online discussion venues, and
everyone could
contribute
in English. Thus, let's give the credit
where it is due. I am not
discussing here if this interest was sufficient. And I am pretty sure
that
if needed we can explore this direction further
(e.g. put more resources
to
discuss the strategy in particular
national/regional communities and send
it upstream) and many people don't participate even though they have
very meaningful things to say. Perhaps what you wanted to write is e.g.
"Please provide X seats in the [ Group 4: Additional participants –
mostly members of the Movement Strategy working groups – invited to
complement the conference program] for non-affiliated Wikimedians based
on
their editorship in Wikimedia projects and trust
of their local
communities". Did I understand you properly? Best Regards,
Michał
Buczyński Wikimedia Polska, FDC, Resource
Allocation Working Group
Dnia
27 września 2018 13:21 Yaroslav Blanter
&lt;ymbalt(a)gmail.com&gt;
napisał(a): This is very remarkable that nobody is actually interested
in
input from what the WMF functionaries now call
"unorganized
volunteers" - people who actually work in the projects. We are just
not in the picture. Good luck with that. Do not be surprised to see a
huge
number of volunteers to oppose the strategy
document again, as it
happened
last year. Cheers Yaroslav On Thu, Sep 27,
2018 at 12:54 PM Nicole
Ebber &lt;nicole.ebber(a)wikimedia.de&gt; wrote: Hi Chris, I can
comment on your question why we need another strategy conference: The
Wikimedia 2030 process is ongoing, and is building – among many other
inputs – upon the outcomes of the last two conferences. Organized groups
are already working on the implementation of the Strategic Direction in
their own strategic/annual planning and programmatic work, and Working
Groups start developing recommendations for change on the structural
level
of the movement. In spring 2019, these groups
will need feedback and
input from the movement's organized groups and the Wikimedia Summit
–
alongside other opportunities for community
consultations – will be
build
as a platform to synchronize the Working
Groups' work and to gather
and synthesize this input and agree upon next steps. I hope this helps
to shed some light on the need for this event. Please let me know if you
have further questions. We'll also be presenting the current state
of
the strategy process at today's
activities meeting; if you're
interested in tuning in:
meta.wikimedia.org meta.wikimedia.org All
the
best Nicole On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 22:18,
Chris Keating &
lt;chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > I have so many
questions. > > Is anything concrete planned to replace the
learning
and capacity-building > work that used
to happen at WMCON? (Or has
the
identification of capacity > building as
a strategic priority just
resulted in .... the abandonment of > the main capacity building
event?) > > And why after two "strategy focused"
conferences, do we need another one? > What will it achieve except
acres more flipchart? How many conferences do > we expect to need
before the strategic direction starts to become a > reality? >
> Chris > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2018, 20:34 Cornelius Kibelka,
<
> cornelius.kibelka(a)wikimedia.de wrote: > > > Dear all,
> > > > As Nicole Ebber already wrote a couple of weeks
ago,
we would like to > give > > you some further information about
the next Wikimedia Conference, that > will > > take place from
March 29–31, 2019 in Berlin, Germany. > > > > The next
conference will focus on the Movement Strategy process and > >
movement governance for the organized part of the movement in general.
> The > > program will be designed according to the status and
needs of the ongoing > > Movement Strategy process and its
working
groups. We are hoping to see a >
> diverse group of participants
next year, and look forward to creating > three > > days of
working, discussing, and thinking together. The event is made > >
possible through the generous financial support of the Wikimedia >
>
Foundation. > > > >
Thus, to make it clearer that learning
and capacity-building will not be > > part of the program and cut
laces to the previous conference, we will > > change the name to
“Wikimedia Summit” (#wmsummit). > > > > The change of the
purpose of the event is accompanied by a change in the > >
composition of the audience. The event will be a more focused one, and
> > therefore we aim to scale down the audience to around 200
participants. > As > > it is this still the Wikimedia
affiliates
conference, every _eligible_ > >
affiliate can send one (1)
delegate. Furthermore, we will invite > > participants from the
Wikimedia Affiliate EDs (~10), WMF Board of > Trustees > >
(10),
WMF staff (~10), the committees (~15 from FDC,
AffCom and Simple >
APG) > > and additional members of the Movement Strategy working
groups, that do > not > > come in another role (~20). You can
find more information regarding this > on > > Meta.[1] >
> > > Registration for the Wikimedia Summit will open on
November
2 and end on > > December 17,
2018. We urge participants that
need
a visa to register no > > later
than November 19, so we can
support
them as best as possible to > get a
> > visa for the event.
> > > > We will keep you updated in the further weeks and
months via the usual > > communication channels. If you have any
questions, please do not hesitate > > to contact us, preferably
via
wmsummit(a)wikimedia.de. > >
> > Best regards, > >
> > Daniela Gentner & Cornelius Kibelka > >
> >
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