G'day
I have been contacted by an active Wikiproject Spam editor for help (because I've recently been working with an editor here in Perth in a similar situation), to talk to a user who appears to be linked to the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. The user is just adding links to EOA in the external links section of related articles, another user has asked for the links not to be blacklisted as its a good source.
In these case the Australian chapter reaches out such editors as a personal discussion over a coffee here works very effectively in turning this type of contact into potential programmatic activities. Being just couple miles too far way I was looking for someone closer who would be willing to followup with this on a local level. As I said in my offer of help I'm happy to support and advise them that goes for who ever takes up the reigns but the important part of developing this is impractical from here.
on WP discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cals.eoa#Help_offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gnangarra#UOA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Encyclopedia_o...
already checked meta there isnt any chapters close by, nearest user group is in North Carolina with a smaller area of interest, and the only experienced editors(10,000+ edits) listed on the en Wikiproject Arkansas havent been active in the last 6 months
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck locating a Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
G'day
I have been contacted by an active Wikiproject Spam editor for help (because I've recently been working with an editor here in Perth in a similar situation), to talk to a user who appears to be linked to the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. The user is just adding links to EOA in the external links section of related articles, another user has asked for the links not to be blacklisted as its a good source.
In these case the Australian chapter reaches out such editors as a personal discussion over a coffee here works very effectively in turning this type of contact into potential programmatic activities. Being just couple miles too far way I was looking for someone closer who would be willing to followup with this on a local level. As I said in my offer of help I'm happy to support and advise them that goes for who ever takes up the reigns but the important part of developing this is impractical from here.
on WP discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cals.eoa#Help_offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gnangarra#UOA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Encyclopedia_o...
already checked meta there isnt any chapters close by, nearest user group is in North Carolina with a smaller area of interest, and the only experienced editors(10,000+ edits) listed on the en Wikiproject Arkansas havent been active in the last 6 months
-- Gnangarra
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This is not an especially helpful response.
Regards,, Craig
On 14 October 2015 at 20:37, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck locating a Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
G'day
I have been contacted by an active Wikiproject Spam editor for help (because I've recently been working with an editor here in Perth in a similar situation), to talk to a user who appears to be linked to the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. The user is just adding links to EOA in the external links section of related articles, another user has asked for
the
links not to be blacklisted as its a good source.
In these case the Australian chapter reaches out such editors as a
personal
discussion over a coffee here works very effectively in turning this type of contact into potential programmatic activities. Being just couple
miles
too far way I was looking for someone closer who would be willing to followup with this on a local level. As I said in my offer of help I'm happy to support and advise them that goes for who ever takes up the
reigns
but the important part of developing this is impractical from here.
on WP discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cals.eoa#Help_offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gnangarra#UOA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Encyclopedia_o...
already checked meta there isnt any chapters close by, nearest user group is in North Carolina with a smaller area of interest, and the only experienced editors(10,000+ edits) listed on the en Wikiproject Arkansas havent been active in the last 6 months
-- Gnangarra
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I randomly clicked user pages in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Arkansas and found many 5,000+ currently editing Wikipedians, and one 40,000+ editor.
Sounds like hitting user_talk pages might be a better approach to finding suitable Wikipedians.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.net wrote:
This is not an especially helpful response.
Regards,, Craig
On 14 October 2015 at 20:37, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck locating a Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
G'day
I have been contacted by an active Wikiproject Spam editor for help (because I've recently been working with an editor here in Perth in a similar situation), to talk to a user who appears to be linked to the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. The user is just adding links to EOA in the external links section of related articles, another user has asked for
the
links not to be blacklisted as its a good source.
In these case the Australian chapter reaches out such editors as a
personal
discussion over a coffee here works very effectively in turning this type of contact into potential programmatic activities. Being just couple
miles
too far way I was looking for someone closer who would be willing to followup with this on a local level. As I said in my offer of help I'm happy to support and advise them that goes for who ever takes up the
reigns
but the important part of developing this is impractical from here.
on WP discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cals.eoa#Help_offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gnangarra#UOA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Encyclopedia_o...
already checked meta there isnt any chapters close by, nearest user group is in North Carolina with a smaller area of interest, and the only experienced editors(10,000+ edits) listed on the en Wikiproject Arkansas havent been active in the last 6 months
-- Gnangarra
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Thanks John missed that option I have gone looked through those, again the only high edit counts arent currently active still looking for someone who can help theres no point spamming people nor asking people have very little experience
On 14 October 2015 at 19:13, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
I randomly clicked user pages in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Arkansas and found many 5,000+ currently editing Wikipedians, and one 40,000+ editor.
Sounds like hitting user_talk pages might be a better approach to finding suitable Wikipedians.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.net wrote:
This is not an especially helpful response.
Regards,, Craig
On 14 October 2015 at 20:37, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck locating
a
Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
G'day
I have been contacted by an active Wikiproject Spam editor for help (because I've recently been working with an editor here in Perth in a similar situation), to talk to a user who appears to be linked to the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. The user is just adding links to EOA in the external links section of related articles, another user has asked for
the
links not to be blacklisted as its a good source.
In these case the Australian chapter reaches out such editors as a
personal
discussion over a coffee here works very effectively in turning this
type
of contact into potential programmatic activities. Being just couple
miles
too far way I was looking for someone closer who would be willing to followup with this on a local level. As I said in my offer of help
I'm
happy to support and advise them that goes for who ever takes up the
reigns
but the important part of developing this is impractical from here.
on WP discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cals.eoa#Help_offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gnangarra#UOA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Encyclopedia_o...
already checked meta there isnt any chapters close by, nearest user
group
is in North Carolina with a smaller area of interest, and the only experienced editors(10,000+ edits) listed on the en Wikiproject
Arkansas
havent been active in the last 6 months
-- Gnangarra
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Have forwarded on to the GLAM outreach mailing list as there seems to be a public library service behind this.
(I would observe that edit count and ability to do outreach don't necessarily correlate that well - someone with a few hundred edits can be a great contact point for a cultural institution and someone with tends of thousands can be a poor one... :) )
Chris
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks John missed that option I have gone looked through those, again the only high edit counts arent currently active still looking for someone who can help theres no point spamming people nor asking people have very little experience
On 14 October 2015 at 19:13, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
I randomly clicked user pages in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Arkansas and found many 5,000+ currently editing Wikipedians, and one 40,000+ editor.
Sounds like hitting user_talk pages might be a better approach to finding suitable Wikipedians.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.net wrote:
This is not an especially helpful response.
Regards,, Craig
On 14 October 2015 at 20:37, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck
locating
a
Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com
wrote:
G'day
I have been contacted by an active Wikiproject Spam editor for help (because I've recently been working with an editor here in Perth in
a
similar situation), to talk to a user who appears to be linked to
the
Encyclopedia of Arkansas. The user is just adding links to EOA in
the
external links section of related articles, another user has asked
for
the
links not to be blacklisted as its a good source.
In these case the Australian chapter reaches out such editors as a
personal
discussion over a coffee here works very effectively in turning this
type
of contact into potential programmatic activities. Being just
couple
miles
too far way I was looking for someone closer who would be willing to followup with this on a local level. As I said in my offer of help
I'm
happy to support and advise them that goes for who ever takes up the
reigns
but the important part of developing this is impractical from here.
on WP discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cals.eoa#Help_offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gnangarra#UOA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Encyclopedia_o...
already checked meta there isnt any chapters close by, nearest user
group
is in North Carolina with a smaller area of interest, and the only experienced editors(10,000+ edits) listed on the en Wikiproject
Arkansas
havent been active in the last 6 months
-- Gnangarra
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Thanks Chris for forwarding that along, yeah I agree edit count isnt an ideal indicator yet its one measure that can be used from half a world away to indicate experience and given the user I'm trying to help has ruffled community feathers knowledge of and being known by the community is important aspect that a high edit count user can add....
On 14 October 2015 at 19:50, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Have forwarded on to the GLAM outreach mailing list as there seems to be a public library service behind this.
(I would observe that edit count and ability to do outreach don't necessarily correlate that well - someone with a few hundred edits can be a great contact point for a cultural institution and someone with tends of thousands can be a poor one... :) )
Chris
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks John missed that option I have gone looked through those, again
the
only high edit counts arent currently active still looking for someone
who
can help theres no point spamming people nor asking people have very
little
experience
On 14 October 2015 at 19:13, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
I randomly clicked user pages in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_in_Arkansas and found many 5,000+ currently editing Wikipedians, and one 40,000+ editor.
Sounds like hitting user_talk pages might be a better approach to finding suitable Wikipedians.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.net wrote:
This is not an especially helpful response.
Regards,, Craig
On 14 October 2015 at 20:37, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck
locating
a
Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com
wrote:
G'day
I have been contacted by an active Wikiproject Spam editor for
help
(because I've recently been working with an editor here in Perth
in
a
similar situation), to talk to a user who appears to be linked to
the
Encyclopedia of Arkansas. The user is just adding links to EOA in
the
external links section of related articles, another user has asked
for
the
links not to be blacklisted as its a good source.
In these case the Australian chapter reaches out such editors as a
personal
discussion over a coffee here works very effectively in turning
this
type
of contact into potential programmatic activities. Being just
couple
miles
too far way I was looking for someone closer who would be willing
to
followup with this on a local level. As I said in my offer of
help
I'm
happy to support and advise them that goes for who ever takes up
the
reigns
but the important part of developing this is impractical from
here.
on WP discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cals.eoa#Help_offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gnangarra#UOA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#Encyclopedia_o...
already checked meta there isnt any chapters close by, nearest
user
group
is in North Carolina with a smaller area of interest, and the only experienced editors(10,000+ edits) listed on the en Wikiproject
Arkansas
havent been active in the last 6 months
-- Gnangarra
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I gave Gnangarra a potential contact off-list.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck locating a Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
Jane, this is so off-base it's bordering offensive to those that live in "fly-over" states. You don't need a massive city to have Wikimedians and I have no idea where you're coming from.
It took me approximately 12 seconds to find someone in [[Category:Wikipedians in Arkansas]] who is active, has been around awhile, and whose userpage indicates they are in the same city. A city that has a metro population of three-quarters of a million, at that.
(If you don't have userinfo.js [0] in your global .js, I highly recommend it)
0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PleaseStand/userinfo.js
Maybe someone with the Mass Messenger privilege can compile a Arkansas user list & use the Mass Messenger service to post to their talk pages.
Yours, Peaceray
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I gave Gnangarra a potential contact off-list.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Arkansas is considered one of the "fly-over" states. Good luck locating a Wikipedian somewhere around there, not to mention a Wikimedian.
Jane, this is so off-base it's bordering offensive to those that live in "fly-over" states. You don't need a massive city to have Wikimedians and I have no idea where you're coming from.
It took me approximately 12 seconds to find someone in [[Category:Wikipedians in Arkansas]] who is active, has been around awhile, and whose userpage indicates they are in the same city. A city that has a metro population of three-quarters of a million, at that.
(If you don't have userinfo.js [0] in your global .js, I highly recommend it)
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On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
(If you don't have userinfo.js [0] in your global .js, I highly recommend it)
IMO this should be a standard gadget available for all wikis.
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