:) ok then. thank you. i should ask first whether wikipedia collects logs.
2010/11/28 aude <aude.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:30 PM,
<WJhonson(a)aol.com> wrote:
I'm afraid our Tatar is correct in some
senses and others in this thread
are in a failing or failed mode.
Each web server, of which the WMF has a few, collects details on the
behaviour of IPs, in logs. Those logs can be and probably have been
requested by
certain government officials, most likely for the purpose of tracking down
who is behind a certain "Bad" posting to a BLP.
CheckUser data (IPs of editors) are kept for 3 months.
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckU…
WMF does not keep apache logs which would track what pages people are
reading.''
http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/httpd.conf (see CustomLog which is commented
out, meaning that access logs are not kept)
There are some logs for the squid servers which are used to generate page
view stats, but those take a 1/1000 sample and there are full squid logs for
click throughs on the fundraising banners.
http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Squid_logging
So, we do not have readership logs except for the sampled squid logs. For
performance reasons, it's not desirable to collect more detailed logs, nor
would we really want them.
-Katie (@aude)
In addition, courts can make such orders in order
to determine an otherwise
"John Doe" named in a suit, such as for libel, etc. It's happened it will
continue to happen, the WMF does keep such logs.
Knowing the IP, it can then be tracked back to that user's ISP and a log
again requested to determine the exact person, or at least business or
household, who used the IP at that exact time. So playing with words,
doesn't let
us get around that point.
I'm still not clear why we would want to know the IP exactly for analytical
purposes. Some intrepid programmer could write a program which would
simply collect detailed analysis of a person's in-world behaviour and call
them
"Bob992" instead of 13.42.204.192 or whatever. Making the information
packets anonymous. That would still allow any sort of analysis the Tatars
want to
make, and not reveal any private information.
W
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and i write again, do not you or somebody know why my messages are not
published in the official mail archive? i do not format my message
correctly?