On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, I had no idea it was going on until very
recently. It seems the
initial communications were pretty much restricted to those already
involved in technical areas or mailing lists.
"The community", when we're talking about something that will affect
everyone, means, well, everyone who cares to participate in the discussion.
The final version should be advertised as widely as possible, and the
community (not a subset of it) should decide if it's acceptable.
Again this hasn't defined what the community is. The opening statement of
the
draft says
This is a *code of conduct for Wikimedia technical spaces*. It applies both
within physical spaces, such as Wikimedia technical
events and Wikimedia
technical presentations in other events, and virtual spaces (
MediaWiki.org,
wikitech.wikimedia.org <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/>, Phabricator
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator>, Gerrit
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Gerrit>, technical
mailing lists
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview#MediaWiki_and_technical>
, technical IRC channels
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels#MediaWiki_and_technical>,
and Etherpad <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Etherpad>
).
The fact that some people have participated on
specific parts does not
negate the need for ratification of the full and final version. Work on
individual sections hammers out what you're going to present to the
community. It does not bypass the need to actually do that.
Todd
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Erik Bernhardson <
ebernhardson(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Rogol
Domedonfors <
domedonfors(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
summer
of 2015, and is finally nearing completion. The
original consensus in
2015
> had been that the completed code would be submitted to the community
for
ratification and adoption. However, since the end of 2015 the drafting
of
> the code has largely been in the hands of a small group of WMF staff,
and
> they have taken it on themselves to change
that consensus and stated
that
the code
will come into effect as soon as the last section is agreed,
which
will be quite soon.
Do the WMF and the wider Community wish to adhere to the initial
consensus,
> and put the draft code out to the comunity for adoption? Or will the
WMF
choose to
enact it on their own authority irrespective of any community
views on the subject?
It's not particularly clear hear, which community? The developers of
mediawiki-core? extension developers? people who attend hackathons and
such? It seems all of these groups have been bombarded with calls to
participate in the process over the last year and have had plenty of
opportunity to be heard. That only a small group of WMF staff have
decided
to participate, almost entirely in their free
time as volunteers and not
paid employees, doesn't seem to change that.
> If the code is to be voted on by the Community, what would be the
> appropriate venue for the vote, and where should the vote be
publicised?
"Rogol"
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