Hi SJ, Dear all,
I've have posted WMDE's feedback on the discussion pages, respectively:
a) for the proposal template: http://meta.wikimedia.org/** wiki/Template_talk:FDC_**proposal_form_v1http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:FDC_proposal_form_v1
*As to content:*
**The question "Approximately how many volunteers participate actively in your entity?" is difficult to answer if you don't define what do you understand as "active participation".* **In Table 4 we have encountered some problems with describing detailed activities and accurate indicators as our detailed program planning for 2013 will take place just in Nov/Dec. Maybe in the future you could point out what is the required level of detail and if it's OK to give some general examples.* **I think the proposal made sense as a whole and most of the questions were very accurate.* * * *As to technical diffculties:* * *The wiki-tables were a killer. Especially in case of WMDE they were so large that it was really difficult to a) create them and b) to fill them in and keep an overview of the code once you wanted to introduce some changes.* **Not being able to edit individual sections of the proposal made it extra difficult as well (each time I tried it the template code appeared and I had to go back and edit the document as a whole).* **The initially limited number of table entries (max. 6) was very problematic when you consider that in some tables we had 15 or more entries. This problem has been fixed but I would recommend reconsidering any entry-limitation in the future.*
b) the overall process: http://meta.wikimedia.org/** wiki/FDC_portal/2012/FDC_**members/Commentshttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/2012/FDC_members/Comments
**Our community members raised the following concern (and we are aware that this has been discussed also before): all the proposals are available only in English which makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to read nad comment on them accurately if you don't speak English or speak it poorly. This is a major problem if you want to enable a broad community participation during the process. Although we have offered a translation service for comments during the public comment phase to our members, we cannot translate all 13 proposals into German in such a short period of time (most of the proposal have been posted on the last days before the deadline and the public comment phase starts directly after). Also the financial aspect of such translation would have to be considered.* **Further, our community members pointed out that 2 weeks period is to short to read, understand and give a reasonable comment on all 13 proposals, especially if they are not in one's native language.*
I've been also wondering whether there has already been an official call for comments for the worldwide community? I think something like this would be a good reminder and would motivate people to start commenting on the proposals (cause there is not much action going on right now).
Best,
Kasia
2012/10/4 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com
Hi,
Thanks for starting this thread, Itzik. I agree it is a great chance to see what different groups are planning for the coming year. I hope those who worked on one of these plans have some energy left to leave comments for one another.
I would like to hear from chapters who filled out proposals whether they found the process straightforward, and whether / how it changed their annual planning.
I would also like to hear from chapters who considered filling out a proposal but did not do so: why not?
Regards, Sj
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Itzik Edri itzik@infra.co.il wrote:
Hi,
Yesterday was the last day to submit proposals to the FDC for round 1
(and
it strange that we didn't saw any reminder email about it..). I think
it's
a great opportunity to see (and give opinion about) the chapters & foundation (core) programs and budget plans for 2013 (although it seem
like
not everyone finished filling out the forms): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals
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