On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
Nathan, I was responding to Lila's note to clarify that I had made the decision to not discuss anything privately with any WMF employee. The IRC discussion was referenced by Fae, so I sent a link to the discussion so everyone could see what he was talking about; I will absolutely stand by my words. I think it's very important for everyone to understand that the WMF is not trying to directly control my communication with the community and with WMF employees. These are all my decisions.
Everyone who is encouraging me to stop posting on this thread seem to be the people who were asking for the clarification of my role in the first place. These people seemed to think this matter was urgent and that we shouldn't wait any longer- much less for me to understand the intricacies of those IRC channels- to get clarification. I was not the person to bring up the IRC discussion, but once it was brought up, I don't think many people would disagree that it was appropriate for me to respond with my account.
We are all interested in hearing all sides of every story here, aren't we? I'm starting to get the feeling that there are things that some people on this list don't want *anyone* to discuss. After all, you could simply ignore my messages or even filter them from your inbox, if you are so inclined. This impression has been troubling me greatly. Do you know that this is *precisely* what many on Wikipediocracy are saying about this list? Are they right?
,Wil
I'm way post having posted too much on this subject, so one last brief message and that will be it for me. Wil, I don't think anyone has objected to criticism of Wikimedia or enwp policies on this list (other than over forum selection for certain issues). People *have* objected to your decision to associate with WO, and have attempted to describe to you why they object.
Others (including me) have pointed out that your inexperience hampers your power as a critic of internal processes. There are just a long list of things you don't know much about, but that doesn't seem to prevent you from complaining about them in high visibility forums like this list. My advice is to take time away from lists and forums and controversial discussions and just learn and experience the projects. Then come back and join the more meta discussions.
I suspect you won't choose to follow that advice, since its been given multiple other times and you haven't yet, but I hope you understand the distinction between suggesting that you listen and learn before you opine and demanding that you piss off and stop posting full stop. I'm doing the former, no one has done the latter.