This is going nowhere, one of the big issues is that there is a lack of
understanding on how WikiData works and whats it purpose is.
Wikimedia Australia solution is invest community money into bringing
someone who has contributed to Wikidata to Australia to do a series of
talks and workshops around the country over a three week period.
Perhaps Wikidata community could improve the wider Wikimedian communities
understanding by doing the same on a larger scale get out to where the
contributors are, answer question explain how it works and do workshops
aimed directly at existing Wikiproject contributors. obviously its a lot
simpler and cheaper in places like Europe/US where there are already active
contributors who have the knowledge
On 21 December 2015 at 08:00, Fabian Flöck <f.floeck(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Not a contribution to the discussion at large, but I
had the same problem
Andreas is mentioning a couple of days ago when doing some of my first WD
edits and adding a reference. I had no idea what to chose in that property
field and it only showed me “instance of” and “subclass of” as a cold
start. (I guess your average new editor might even wonder why to enter a
property at all there - they would probably expect a single field to enter
the source.) So I just went to some other items and checked how it was
done there, which is not optimal. A pre-selection of relevant properties
(maybe most used in other items?) in the type-ahead would be nice. And
maybe a small explanation of what the property for references means
(something like “specifies type of reference” ?). I was also unsure if and
when to ever use “imported from” in that field (i.e., if I got the fact
from a Wikipedia page, but no primary source exists) or if that was
reserved for machine imports.
Fabian
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 15:59:58 +0000
From: Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com <mailto:jayen466@gmail.com>>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:
wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues
Just try it, Lydia. Click "add"
in subsidiaries in
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37156 <
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37156>
-- enter a company name, and then
click "add reference". When I do that,
the text field contains a
greyed-out
"property", and the drop-down shows the
unhelpful items I mentioned
above.
And it would be good if the help text actually *asked* people to cite a
reference.
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