Hoi,
I am troubled with the ease doubt is raised about people contributing to
this mailing list/ our community/ our projects. This is a mailing list that
has the option of moderation. That is already in itself a sure way of
driving people away. However, it is not the same as going whole hog and ban
like it is proposed.
Our community needs to have a plurality of points of view and for me this
is yet another moment where the view point of others is not respected, a
moment where we are way too aggressive in ostracising someone who has been
with us for a long time. I have seen on multiple occasions how people with
a long track record become lost to us. All because of what, the greater
good?
Sad indeed.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 19:05, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I regret to say that I feel James has abused this
forum once again for his
own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the WMF
or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way
that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions are
an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different
perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a
step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple
occasions to stay on topic. I am not sure that James needs to remain a
contributor to this list.
Risker/Anne
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi
<kevinpayravi(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's
clear
here that
this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and has
no
origination or coordination with the Foundation -
correct?
Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to
encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors"
which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation
given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449
https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgwiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little to
do with the Foundation's mission.
That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The
idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the
proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means
contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman
<jsalsman(a)gmail.com wrote:
> Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
>
> What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower
> contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia
> Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering
> people to collect and develop educational content:
>
>
http://bit.ly/wikimission
>
> The survey results are summarized after form submission.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Salsman
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