I have been working on the UCoC about as long as anybody, if not as
intensely as some. Hence, I have some confidence in saying that it is the
Foundation's role to shepherd the Movement Strategy recommendation to
reality in creating a baseline of behavioral standards that are
movement-wide. *I* have opinions about what is and is not good conduct and
how conduct can and should be reinforced, but the Code of Conduct was not
written to reflect *my* opinions *or* the Foundation's - the drafting
committee was a disparate group working to incorporate the feedback of
volunteers and staff from all across the movement.
The questions you raise strike me as very good discussion good points for
the planned future policy review. Policies run into gray areas unless they
are so generic as to be toothless. We will occasionally have hard
conversations in application when we discover unintended or negative
consequences. This is not a new challenge to the movement. I think it's
one of the things Wikimedia does rather well.
In terms of "in good faith" and "is malicious" - my understanding of
malice from both a linguistic and legal sense is that it includes the
*intent* to do harm. Beyond that, while your question "How can they be
prevented from inserting erroneous material without causing them to doubt
their own perceptions etc. in a way that they may well – in good faith – is
malicious?" - seems to have lost a verb or two perhaps, I think what you
are asking is how people can be prevented from inserting material without
maliciously causing them to doubt their own perceptions: [[WP:V]] and
[[WP:NPOV]] do not require malice in calling for consensus-defined reliable
sources and avoiding fringe material. That said, again, this strikes me as
a discussion for the future policy review, and if actual issues arise in
the meantime I have no doubt discussion will happen.
Best,
Maggie
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 10:47 AM Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Maggie,
Could I ask you for help with a couple of things:
1. The UCoC states that "sharing information concerning other
contributors' Wikimedia activity outside the projects" is harassment. Is it
really the WMF's intention to prohibit public discussions of controversial
editing? To give some examples, in the past English Wikipedia arbitrators
commented on cases like the Scientology case or the Indian Institute of
Planning and Management (Wifione) case in the press. Following the letter
of the UCoC, they would no longer be allowed to do so. Even articles like
https://www.cnet.com/science/features/wikipedia-is-at-war-over-the-coronavi…
fall foul of the letter of the UCoC as written today, with every Wikipedian
involved in it guilty of harassment, per the UCoC. Is it really your
intention to prevent volunteers from discussing anyone's Wikipedia activity
outside the project? And if it isn't – could you help us prevail upon your
colleagues in the WMF board and the drafting committee to just fix the
sentence and have it unambiguously say what they really mean?
2. The UCoC states that the following is harassment: "Psychological
manipulation: Maliciously causing someone to doubt their own perceptions,
senses, or understanding with the objective to win an argument or force
someone to behave the way you want." We have, and always have had, and
always will have, users with sincerely and passionately held fringe beliefs
about matters of science, politics, religion, etc., as well as users
lacking basic compentency in the subject area or language they choose to
work in. How can they be prevented from inserting erroneous material
without causing them to doubt their own perceptions etc. in a way that they
may well – in good faith – is malicious?
Andreas
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 2:02 PM Maggie Dennis <mdennis(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Let me clarify a few points.
- The vote was intended to surface what concerns might exist more
broadly in the international communities, not all of whom engage in Meta
discussions. Staff were neither asked to convince people to vote for the
enforcement guidelines as written nor even encouraged to. They are not held
to account for the speed with which the Guidelines are approved nor for the
language within it. It is their job to facilitate.
- The vote threshold is the point at which it is ready to engage
the Board for their further directions. We expect to see issues coalescing
in a way to help funnel attention to them to provide input internationally,
in multilingual facilitated review.
- The intention is indeed that if major issues have been identified
in the enforcement guidelines, they will go back to a vote, again and
again, until there is a version that is workable, with a period before each
vote for evaluating issues and addressing them.
- The UCoC drafters have been international volunteers with
experience working on Wikimedia projects from multiple angles and multiple
languages. They do not all agree on every line as written and have worked
very hard to come up with a document that can be tested and refined until
it is ready to be put into use.
It is true that the policy and guideline are not open to editing in the
same way that some local community policies are. Like the Terms of Use
itself and the Privacy Policy, neither of which are open to edits, it is a
document that will have formal methods for modification. In the case of the
UCoC, the plan is to review it (policy and enforcement guideline) on an
annual basis to see what is working and what is not, with an understanding
that behavioral policies can work in unexpected ways and have unexpected
outcomes and even that what people understand to be acceptable behavior and
unacceptable behavior evolves over time.
Best,
Maggie
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:10 AM Yair Rand <yyairrand(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Our conduct policies were carefully crafted by
hundreds of brilliant
people over the course of twenty years, building upon endless experience
and detailed discussions that could fill books upon books.
The UCoC Project ... seems to be built to supersede all that we've built
in this area, with an extremely inadequate replacement. It apparently
abandoned the idea of being a "minimal baseline" in favor of including
every preferred (and even aspirational) point available. The Enforcement
Guidelines thoroughly place the UCoC itself front-and-center, requiring
extensive linking and pushing it to be read by everyone (we have a hard
enough time getting people to read the existing conduct policies; making
everything link to UCoC will definitely drastically reduce the reach of
existing policies if not eliminate their presence outright), mandatory
pledges/affirmations of the UCoC and compulsory UCoC training (both as
prerequisites to sysop participation, conditions which will likely strip
the ranks).
The UCoC is a text that the community did not write. It remains filled
with dozens of very serious issues, but volunteers were never invited to
edit it. Basic attempts at even cleaning up the document's language were
reverted, as the staff are quite clear that it is not a Wikimedia document
that community efforts may be directly part of. Larger issues were ignored.
Even if we were to grant the idea that we would centralize conduct policies
and remove local variation in acceptable practices, it looks to me that
this attempt at producing a viable policy did not work. The WMF appointees
who wrote the UCoC, while they surely worked hard on the document over the
few months given to write the text, were quite reasonably not capable of
doing the kind of work we typically expect from the large numbers of
experienced volunteers who build core policies over the course of a much
longer time period.
Even taking into account the WMF's extensive campaign to convince people
that the UCoC was good (and to vote accordingly), and their admission that
they intended to keep pushing the UCoC indefinitely until a vote passed in
the direction they wanted, I am surprised and dismayed at the result of the
vote. The 57% support outcome (or 58.6% if one discounts neutral votes, as
is often the practice), while well below the amount typically needed to
establish consensus for a policy, is above the threshold the WMF determined
to use for their own purposes.
I don't know where we can go from here, or what the Board will do with
this situation. Numerous contributors have already pointed out that these
numbers fall clearly under "no consensus". The staff seem to have realized
that removing sysop tools from a large portion of the admin corps as
required would be disastrous. One of the more egregious problems present in
the UCoC text is already likely to be the subject of review following an
open letter by a user group, though many, many others remain largely
unconsidered. Local community preparatory work for dealing with possible
WMF action is ... roughly what I would expect (including the commitments to
not cooperate with UCoC efforts, or to implement them).
This is a pretty bad situation.
-- Yair Rand
בתאריך יום ג׳, 5 באפר׳ 2022 ב-17:32 מאת Stella Ng <
sng@wikimedia.org>:
Hello All,
We would like to thank the over 2300 Wikimedians who participated in
the recently concluded community vote on the Enforcement Guidelines
for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC)
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Enforcement_guidelines>.
At this time, the volunteer scrutinizing group has completed the
review of the accuracy of the vote and the final results are available
on Meta-wiki. A quick summary can be found below:
-
58.6% Yes, 41.4% No
-
Contributors from 128 home wikis participated in the vote
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Over thirty languages were supported in the ballot
What this outcome means is that there is enough support for the Board
to review the document. It does not mean that the Enforcement Guidelines
are automatically complete.
From here, the project team will collate and summarize the comments
provided in the voting process, and publish them on Meta-wiki. The
Enforcement Guidelines will be submitted to the Board of Trustees for their
consideration. The Board will review input given during the vote, and
examine whether there are aspects of the Guidelines that need further
refinement. If so, these comments, and the input provided through Meta-wiki
and other community conversations, will provide a good starting point for
revising the Guidelines to meet the needs expressed by communities in the
voter’s responses.
In the event the Board moves forward with ratification, the UCoC
project team will begin supporting specific proposals in the Guidelines.
Some of these proposals include working with community members to form the
U4C Building Committee, starting consultations on training, and supporting
conversations on improving our reporting systems. There is still a lot to
be done, but we will be able to move into the next phase of this work.
Many people took part in making sure the policy and the enforcement
guidelines work for our communities. We will continue to collaboratively
work on the details of the strong proposals outlined in the Guidelines as
presented by the Wikimedians who engaged with the project in different ways
over the last year.
Once again, we thank everyone who participated in the ratification of
the Enforcement Guidelines.
Regards,
Stella Ng on behalf of the UCoC Project Team
Senior Manager, Trust and Safety Policy
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