Nataliia,
Thanks for addressing this issue, I do think your message clarified a lot
and moves us forward with some paths and goalposts.
I do take objection to this statement, however.
First, the UCoC is being enforced now. Not only
does it help guide the
Wikimedia Foundation in its current actions (and has since
it was adopted
by resolution [1]), but multiple communities have referred to it in their
own actions. The policy is in place already, and its enforcement by
communities is encouraged, there is no expectation that it be delayed until
the guidelines for globally approaching the enforcement of the policy are
agreed upon.
Whatever the board's intentions are, the outcome is the UCoC is delayed
until we have enforcement guidelines. Both WMF and communities have acted
in this way and we could cite several examples of actions since the UCoC
approving resolution a bit over 2 years ago.
For a single, very symbolic, example, let me point you in the right
direction of
A full 4 months after the resolution, and now 20 months ago, I created a
rather simple task add links to the UCoC to all WMF wikis. Code for it was
written and it briefly was live before being reverted due to indecision on
where the text policy should live. I have called attention to WMF staff to
this crucial issue for the past 20 months, and yet we still do not even
link to the UCoC in our websites.
Best regards,
Chico Venancio
Em qui., 5 de jan. de 2023 às 14:38, Nataliia Tymkiv <
ntymkiv(a)wikimedia.org> escreveu:
Dear Chico, and Peter, dear all.
Speaking as the chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, I
have a few thoughts. First, the UCoC is being enforced now. Not only does
it help guide the Wikimedia Foundation in its current actions (and has
since it was adopted by resolution [1]), but multiple communities have
referred to it in their own actions. The policy is in place already, and
its enforcement by communities is encouraged, there is no expectation that
it be delayed until the guidelines for globally approaching the enforcement
of the policy are agreed upon.
You do raise a valid question about the success of the last round of
votes. At that point in time, as at this time, staff had recommended that
we, the Board, review any version that passed a simple majority, but such a
situation was never a guarantee of ratification. We respected the results
of the vote – if communities at large could not support the outcome, we
would not have evaluated it at all – but we were interested not only in
support numbers but in causes of concern. What we noticed last time was
that concerns coalesced around a few specific areas, so we felt the
guidelines would benefit from deeper discussion and exploration of those
specific areas. We wanted to make sure the enforcement guidelines were as
widely understood and supported at their launch as they could be and
greatly appreciate the work the communities have done together with the
volunteer-led revisions drafting committee to explore those areas.
With this next round of voting, we hope to find that the further
conversations have led to alignment in these few challenging areas.
Ideally, the guidelines will meet with even more support than last time. If
not, if the changes have actually reduced support, then it might be worth
considering whether those revisions were actually beneficial to the broader
community. If this version of the enforcement guidelines do not exceed the
level of support of the last, we may instead need to consider ratifying the
last or some hybrid of the two or even further reviewing with the community
certain aspects for different development.
No matter what happens with the enforcement guidelines vote, the UCoC is
important to our community health. While global alignment on how to
approach issues is being sought, we trust local communities are continuing
to uphold this policy and other requirements of the Terms of Use to the
best of their abilities.
[1]
https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Approval_of_a_Universal_Co…
Best regards,
antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
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On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 5:23 PM Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
An interesting standoff. I don’t suppose anyone
has analysed the
potential losses and gains associated with each option. If that is even
possible, considering the number of unknowns. I agree that it is taking an
amazingly long time, and it is not obvious why.
Cheers,
Peter
*From:* Chico Venancio [mailto:chicocvenancio@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 05 January 2023 16:56
*To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
*Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Upcoming vote on the revised Enforcement
Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct
The heart of the matter is why are we voting? What is the threshold
that will enact the UCoC?
> Who it would be respected by.
WMF and the board. We've had 3 and a half years of discussion on the
UCoC and a majority vote to approve enforcement guidelines, and yet no
functioning UCoC.
>As volunteers, if a significant part of the community sufficiently
dislikes the proposed UCOC, we simply lose them, and some may become
vociferous opponents because reasonably fixable issues were ignored. Taking
longer and getting it closer to right is to me a better plan. You may not
care about some of the issues that needed to be fixed, but some of us do.
As volunteers, if a significant part of the community sufficiently
dislikes the status quo we simple lose them, and some may become vociferous
opponents because reasonably fixable issues were ignored. Taking over 3
years to implement an Universal Code of Conduct is to me a bad plan. You
may not care about some of the issues that needed to be fixed, but some of
us do.
Cheers,
Chico Venancio
Em qui., 5 de jan. de 2023 às 11:22, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> escreveu:
It seems that sorting out problems that are pointed out during an
approval process is not an unreasonable thing to do, as leaving them
unchanged would be irresponsible and extremely likely to cause other
problems later. Asking whether a vote result will be respected misses the
issue of who it would be respected by. Can you clarify that? As volunteers,
if a significant part of the community sufficiently dislikes the proposed
UCOC, we simply lose them, and some may become vociferous opponents because
reasonably fixable issues were ignored. Taking longer and getting it closer
to right is to me a better plan. You may not care about some of the issues
that needed to be fixed, but some of us do.
Cheers, Peter
*From:* Chico Venancio [mailto:chicocvenancio@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 04 January 2023 20:48
*To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
*Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Upcoming vote on the revised Enforcement
Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct
Hi Patrick,
Five months ago I wrote in the Movement Strategy forum:[1]
Could we have clear criteria for approval of the guidelines? I find it
pretty frustrating that a vote was taken and the majority is being ignored
to review a few points that are not even central to the functioning of the
UCoC. Can we suspend these sections for further review and enforce the UCoC
now?
The first reference I find to UCoC is in june of 2019, and I fear any
participation in this now 3 year long process of creating a universal code
of conduct is pointless, as goalposts can always be shifted later.
Could we have an answer? What is the goalpost here? Will this vote
result be respected?
Kind regards,
[1]
https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/revisions-to-the-universal-code-of-co…
Chico Venancio
Em qua., 4 de jan. de 2023 às 15:41, Patrick Earley <
pearley(a)wikimedia.org> escreveu:
*You can find this message translated into additional languages on
Meta-wiki.
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Announcement/Voting_1>*
Hello all,
In mid-January 2023, the Enforcement Guidelines
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines>
for
the Universal Code of Conduct
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>
will
undergo a second community-wide ratification vote. [1][2] This follows the
March 2022 vote
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Enforcement_guidelines/Voting/Results>,
which resulted in a majority of voters supporting the Enforcement
Guidelines. [3] During the vote, participants helped highlight important
community concerns. The Board’s Community Affairs Committee
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee>
requested
that these areas of concern be reviewed. [4]
The volunteer-led Revisions Committee
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committee#Revisions_Committee_members>
worked
hard reviewing community input and making changes. [5] They updated areas
of concern, such as training and affirmation requirements, privacy and
transparency in the process, and readability and translatability of the
document itself.
The revised Enforcement Guidelines can be viewed *here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines>*,
and a comparison of changes can be found *here
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Comparison>*.
[6][7]
*How to vote?*
Beginning *January 17, 2023*, voting will be open. *This page on
Meta-wiki
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Voter_information>*
outlines
information on how to vote using SecurePoll.
*Who can vote?*
The *eligibility requirements
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforcement_guidelines/Voter_information#Voting_eligibility>*
for
this vote are the same as for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees elections.
See the voter information page for more details about voter eligibility. If
you are an eligible voter, you can use your Wikimedia account to access the
voting server.
*What happens after the vote?*
Votes will be scrutinized by an independent group of volunteers, and
the results will be published on Wikimedia-l, the Movement Strategy Forum,
Diff and on Meta-wiki. Voters will again be able to vote and share concerns
they have about the guidelines. The Board of Trustees will look at the
levels of support and concerns raised as they look at how the Enforcement
Guidelines should be ratified or developed further.
On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,
Patrick
-----
[1], [6] Revised Enforcement Guidelines:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforceme…
[2] Universal Code of Conduct:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
[3] March 2022 vote results:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Enforcement_guide…
[4] Community Affairs Committee:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Comm…
[5] Revisions Committee:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committe…
[7] Comparison page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforceme…
[8] Voter information:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforceme…
[9] Voting eligibility:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Revised_enforceme…
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Lead Trust & Safety Policy Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
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