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Datum: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:54:41 -0400
Von: Dan Rosenthal <swatjester(a)gmail.com>
An: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Betreff: Re: [Foundation-l] Baidupedia copyvio collections
1) What Baidupedia is doing is wrong.
Ack
2) Because of the Great Firewall, taking down
Baidupedia is a net negative for us.
That I don't agree. Fact is, we don't have the power to take it down, and we
don't care if it is down or not. If Baidu is down or not doesn't have an influence
on us. Baidu is not a mirror of Wikipedia. We have had contact with other agencies in
China to build up a mirror (the foundation was informed about these contacts), but because
of the issue of the GFW the contacts all run dead. We don't consider Baidu as a
collaboration, we also don't consider them as a potential collaborator.
3) We want to find a way to bring Baidupedia into
compliance with the GFDL.
That would be fine. But that would not happen. Baidu uses a very muddy copyright policy
porpusely, this was confirmed from inofficial channel.
4) We also potentially want to use some of
Baidupedia's content for ourselves too.
No, never. Because every content on Baidu is potentially copyviod, contents from Baidu on
Wikipedia is a kill-argument. Whenever I see that the content originate from Baidu it is
for me a kill creteria.
5) Because Baidupedia is a collaborative site instead
of a static
site, it faces different operational and legal implications than other
cases.
Maybe in the future once a day. But now they don't see any neccesity to change their
policy. To device a way to let them see the neccesity is maybe a method we should search
for.
Greetings
Ting
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