FYI, and to finish this matter off for the list:
"Not on my watch. I have no access to past conversations so cannot comment on the
conversation you say you have had with list admins in the past..." says Asaf.
I furnished Asaf with verbatim copies of the relevant emails that he may be confident it
was not merely a "conversations I "say" I have had."
It is accurate though that I erred by recalling that the list moderator suggested I was
"trolling" when he actually used the word "baiting."
Trillium Corsage
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:20 AM Trillium Corsage
<trillium2014(a)yandex.com>
wrote:
> As
always, he is (and other
> moderated users are) welcome to submit posts to the list before then,
and
> if the posts are respectful and on-topic,
they would be let through.
That has not been my experience. In fact the last time I sent a
coherently-explained, completely civil, on-topic,and time-sensitive email
to the list, it was held by a moderator who:
A) Suggested I was "trolling the WMF" (is trolling an entire
100-person-plus organization even possible?)
B) Faulted it on bases including that I used the phrase "couple days"
(i.e. "this might take a couple days") rather than his preferred
formulation "couple *of* days"
C) Put it up for a consensus vote among the other list moderators.
I see the list has some new moderators, but I figure odds are this email
will be stopped as well.
Not on my watch. I have no access to past conversations so cannot comment
on the conversation you say you have had with list admins in the past, but
I will state for the record that I think grammatical imperfections (real or
perceived) are absolutely not an acceptable reason to withhold a message
from the list. The vast majority of subscribers are not native speakers of
English, and even if they were, language snobbery is an anti-pattern for
constructive communication.
Re trolling, I am personally very wary of applying that label, and lean
toward avoiding it in all but the most extreme cases. Neither a favorable
opinion of the WIkimedia Foundation, nor a real-world identity, are a
prerequisite for posting on this list. It is perfectly acceptable and
on-topic to question or criticize the Wikimedia Foundation on this list, so
long as one adheres to basic rules of discourse: remaining civil, concise,
on-topic, and respectful in the face of disagreement; avoiding repetition,
aggression, and irrelevant hobby-horses; etc.
A.
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