geni wrote:
On 1/19/07, effe iets anders
<effeietsanders(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Not true. *if* we would allow NC, I bet it will be
possible to persue a lot
of institutions to give their images, paintings, texts etc away under the
NC. So it does have a huge potential, also for pictures with on the short
term no free equivalent. But that is not what this discussion should be
about imho. I dont think we should be talking about what images we would
like to use, i think we should talk about what we are *allowed* (legally) to
use.
Anything until the foundation gets the takedown notice however that
approach is unhelpful.
Yes, except that I don't see it as unhelpful. At the same time I do not
believe that we should be posting indisputably protected random material
for the sole purpose of getting a reaction from those we already know
will react adversely. That would be a wilfull violation.
Talking about the images that we want is the path to talking about what
is allowed. If we don't want the image in the first place it doesn't
matter if it's allowed. Talking about what is allowed in an empirical
vacuum is a clear path to unrealistic answers.
*If* it would
be allowed by all those, it is time for us as community or
maybe as every community by itself, to choose what licenses we *want* to
use, taking into account what the possible consequenses are and what the
costs to our ideals are.
The foundation has rejected that position in the past. no reason to
think they will do otherwise in future.
You know I've seen complaints that the foundation pays to much
attention to en at the expense of other projects. Now I hope you see
the other side of that.
Adopting a common license as a basis to build from is a sensible
decision. (Wikinews already uses a different licence from everyone
else.) I think that this still allows projects some variation in how
the licence will be interpreted. In dealing with fair use, AFAIK the
licences themselves are silent on the matter. Any kind of dominance on
the Board has its downside, whether it's dominance of a language (like
English), or political entity (like the United States or the European
Union).
Ec