geni wrote:
On 1/19/07, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
Not true. *if* we would allow NC, I bet it will be possible to persue a lot of institutions to give their images, paintings, texts etc away under the NC. So it does have a huge potential, also for pictures with on the short term no free equivalent. But that is not what this discussion should be about imho. I dont think we should be talking about what images we would like to use, i think we should talk about what we are *allowed* (legally) to use.
Anything until the foundation gets the takedown notice however that approach is unhelpful.
Yes, except that I don't see it as unhelpful. At the same time I do not believe that we should be posting indisputably protected random material for the sole purpose of getting a reaction from those we already know will react adversely. That would be a wilfull violation.
Talking about the images that we want is the path to talking about what is allowed. If we don't want the image in the first place it doesn't matter if it's allowed. Talking about what is allowed in an empirical vacuum is a clear path to unrealistic answers.
*If* it would be allowed by all those, it is time for us as community or maybe as every community by itself, to choose what licenses we *want* to use, taking into account what the possible consequenses are and what the costs to our ideals are.
The foundation has rejected that position in the past. no reason to think they will do otherwise in future.
You know I've seen complaints that the foundation pays to much attention to en at the expense of other projects. Now I hope you see the other side of that.
Adopting a common license as a basis to build from is a sensible decision. (Wikinews already uses a different licence from everyone else.) I think that this still allows projects some variation in how the licence will be interpreted. In dealing with fair use, AFAIK the licences themselves are silent on the matter. Any kind of dominance on the Board has its downside, whether it's dominance of a language (like English), or political entity (like the United States or the European Union).
Ec