On 4 January 2013 08:18, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Erik Moeller, 04/01/2013 08:02:
I'm wondering whether the key findings in Halfaker's recent "rise and
decline" paper resonate with you:
http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~**halfak/publications/The_Rise_**
and_Decline/<http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~halfak/publications/The_Rise_a…
Existing data like the above supports strongly the notion that
well-intentioned, good faith contributors are much more heavily
discouraged in 2012 than they were in 2004 or 2005, but this can be
explained in significant part with the influx of bad faith
contributors that have necessitated increasingly heavy handed ways to
control against bad edits (Huggle, Twinkle, AbuseFilter, etc.) --
which catch good faith editors in the crossfire -- as well as
increasing expectations of what constitutes an acceptable quality edit
/ page creation.
The paper does contain good news though:
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To explore Hypothesis: Norm formalization & calcification, we first looked
for changes in the rate
of new policy creation following the introduction of a structured proposal
process in 2005.
Figure 8 shows that growth of policies and guidelines began to slow in
2006, just as Forte
(2009) reports. The results from our analysis of new policy/guideline
proposals show that the
number of new policy proposals accepted via this process peaked in 2005 at
27 out of 217 (12%
acceptance). 2006 saw an even higher number of proposed policies, but
lower acceptance
with 24 out of 348 proposals accepted (7% acceptance). From 2007 forward,
the rate at which
policies are proposed decreases monotonically down to a mere 16 in 2011
while the acceptance
rate stays steady at about 7.5%.
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In other words, it would seem that en.wiki, contrary to popular belief,
has developed a good immune system against bureaucracy norms expansion. :-)
The paper is actually of little use in this part IMHO, because:
1) we already know that users who joined in 2005/2006 are still
disproportionately active in most community processes like deletion
discussions and so on,
2) everybody knows that to influence how the wiki is run it's more
effective to change a single word in an important policy than to establish
ten new policies.
As for (1), I doubt the Wikipedia thought police is keeping newcomers out
of discussions, but one can make them look so hard that newbies won't
participate. However, it.wiki recently switched from the established
vote-system for deletion to a discussion system as en.wiki's, and a year of
data for the "new" system seems to prove that it increased the words spent
and drove away old/unexperienced editors (with 3+ years or 51-5000 edits),
while newcomers resisted, presumably to defend their own articles.
https://toolserver.org/~**mauro742/liste/pdc_stats.csv<https://toolserve…
<https://it.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Wikipedia:Elenchi_**
generati_offline/Richieste/**Archivio/2011#Lavoro_per_le_**PdC<https://i…
Nemo
Well, I'd argue "we knew" is not the same as "we can prove"* ;*p.
I
"know" lots of things - that's distinct from being able to prove
them to
academia. In my mind, anything which academically substantiates an
internally-held assumption is A Good Thing: maybe not directly for us, but
indirectly, in the sense that it communicates to intelligent people who get
quantitative data the need to help out and work with us.
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