Paulo,
You suggest that "things will not get pretty if the Wikimedia community
does not approve some of the recommendations". You may recall that just
five years ago, Jan-Bart de Vreede, then chair of the WMF Board, expressed
the opinion
acceptable to some of you. I hope that all of you will be a part of
this
next step in our evolution. But I understand that if you decide to take a
wiki-break, that might be the way things have to be. Even so, you have to
let the Foundation do its work and allow us all to take that next step when
needed. I can only hope that your break is temporary, and that you will
return when the time is right.
I presume this is a good summary of the WMF position today.
Jeff
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:06 AM Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulosperneta(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If I've well understood the timeline, all input
from the Wikimedia
community ceases in mid September. Then it's all defined by the WGs 8and
their advisors), and eventually decided upon by the BoT around December.
Therefore, after 15 September or so, the Wikimedia community will only be
dealing with those recommendations again when they are already in the
process of implementation.
It's quite easy to predict that things will not get pretty if the Wikimedia
community does not approve some of the recommendations that pass all the
way till implementation phase.
Paulo
Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber(a)wikimedia.de> escreveu no dia quinta,
22/08/2019
à(s) 11:58:
Dear all,
Thank you for your engagement and input. It’s been great seeing so much
attention on movement strategy and collaborative efforts for building our
future. Here are a couple of follow up responses and clarifications.
DRAFTS
As pointed out in my previous email, the documents we recently shared are
recommendation drafts. They are not final, and not complete, but working
documents that are currently being refined by the working groups. Some
answers still read like stubs that are longing for further development,
others are very detailed and will become more focused over the next few
weeks. We still decided to publish everything at once, to give everyone a
full picture of the variety of topics and offer an insight into multiple
progress levels.
I would also like to reiterate that movement values, priorities and
community conversation processes are high on our radar. A recommendation
to
change the existing license model, for example,
will not just go through
a
quick approval process, but lead to a deeper
exploration into the
reasoning
behind it: What problems are we trying to tackle,
and what could be ways
to
mitigate them? Such recommendation would then
rather suggest to look into
different measures to ensure indigenous knowledge is included in the
Wikimedia ecosystem, deploy research and further consultation, instead of
rushing to a quick fix.
INTEGRATION
The working groups are taking input that they gathered at Wikimania and
via
different movement channels and incorporating it
into the next iteration
of
their recommendations. These documents will then
serve as a basis for
harmonization across working groups.
The input that we are gathering comes in on different levels. Some of it
targets structural level changes or emphasizes specific principles or
values, while other feedback is more on the programmatic side or already
addressing implementation. Structural input will continue to be
considered
in forthcoming iterations of the recommendations.
Programmatic input will
be documented and taken forward to inform the implementation.
TIMELINE
We wanted to get the English drafts out as soon as possible and the
translations on a rolling basis, so that Wikimania participants could
read
and prepare to engage in person. Over the next
few weeks, we will do
targeted, public outreach to online project communities in multiple
languages. We are soliciting feedback to shape the overall direction of
the
recommendations through mid-September. Working
Groups are already working
on identifying gaps and overlaps with other groups to prepare for
harmonization.
At the harmonization sprint in Tunis on 20-22 September, we will bring 3
representatives from each Working Group together to work to develop a
more
coherent set of recommendations. The group will
be supported by
facilitators and external advice, as well as the core team. We have also
invited María Sefidari, Katherine Maher, Ryan Merkley, Valerie D’Costa
(Wikimedia Foundation) and Abraham Taherivand (Wikimedia Deutschland) to
the sprint. They contribute expertise and experience from their work and
leadership in the movement and beyond. They will be active listeners and
can challenge recommendations by pointing out risks and consequences on
the
organizational and movement level. They also
participate as the
representatives of organizations that may be impacted by the
recommendations. Involving them early is important so they can anticipate
any possible changes for their staff and programs, and plan for
implementation.
Our aim is to release recommendations in November 2019, and present them
to
the Board of Trustees for approval in December.
We will need the legal
authority of the board for some of the recommendations, while others will
then be further delegated to other community mechanisms and structures
for
approval or further consultation.[1] There will
be additional public
consultation activities around implementation that will be discussed and
owned across the movement.
WORKING GROUPS
We have chosen the working group model to ensure that the process that
embarks to make significant changes to our movement structures is owned
by
the community. Members of the nine working group
were selected by a
steering committee and the groups were established in July 2019.[2] Group
members come from different parts of the movement, e.g. from different
regions and languages, from individual contributors and organized groups,
and with different volunteer and staff roles, incl. Wikimedia Foundation
staff and board.
The groups are doing an amazing job. With many of them being volunteers,
or
doing this work on top of their regular jobs,
creating the draft
recommendations is a huge achievement. They first needed to form, storm
and
norm as a group and figure out how to best work
together across time
zones,
languages, and contexts. They then took a deep
dive into the substance
and
identified the scope of their work and the
specific questions to tackle
for
us as a movement to advance in our strategic
direction. The development
of
recommendations has started in spring this year,
and – aside from many
online calls, asynchronous work and scarce in-person meetings – included
incorporating community conversations and external expertise. It is only
to
the hard work of these groups that we finally
have something tangible in
front of us that we can all react to and help further improve to build
our
future together.
Please join us in thanking, celebrating and supporting them, rather than
rushing to conclusions or arguing over details. Please contribute in
good
faith, and in a constructive way.
Let me know if you have further questions.
Best wishes,
Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/July…
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working…
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 13:13, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> And this is the core problem of the whole process (which has been
pointed
out by
multiple people from the very beginning)
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jeff Hawke <geoffey.hawke(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Andy
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett <
andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke <geoffey.hawke(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
> > > > recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
> > >
> > > This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step; the
one
> >
where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider
Wikimedia
>
community.
>
That step is not mentioned at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequen…
> > ?
> >
> > Jeff
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