Is it 90%? I haven't seen anyone actually define what the problem is on foundation-l at least. Is it images with no info, or false info? Or is just that the new users aren't using Commons category system unrelated to copyright? I tried to read the Commons-l archive to catch up, but I am still unclear on what scope of the problem is. Does anyone actually have numbers?
Without really knowing the situation, I would say that I believe all communities struggle to keep up on these things. Everyone has backlogs they are working through and these things happen in cycles. One month you make great progress, another month things are overwhelming and ground is lost. Perhaps threatening drastic action is a good way to draw attention and hopefully solutions when the situation gets particularly bad. However I think it would really be useful to talk about the real numbers in this situation. How much worse is it than what others are dealing with?
Birgitte SB
--- Brad Patrick bradp.wmf@gmail.com wrote:
Or, the es.wp users are all not aware of the restrictions on what is acceptable. Your earlier post appeared to support the es.wp position. This is a problem that should be handled at the source, not creating better tools to fix what should not be happening in the first place. If, say, 90% of the material being uploaded is against the grain, why should we not try to fix the problem at the source? We are clearly not doing a good enough job explaning what is okay and what is not if this kind of situation has evolved.
On 11/14/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/11/06, Brad Patrick bradp.wmf@gmail.com
wrote:
Commons exists to be a repository for free
culture *and* to serve as
an inter-wiki storage medium for *free* media.
it is not a place to
dump stuff, nor is it a place which exists
independently of other
wikis. Copyright violations are not a minor or trivial
problem. They are a
serious problem, for which we are obligated to
act when they are
properly brought to our attention. This is all
nothing new.
If there are Wikimedians who are advocating
housing copyrighted media
in Commons, speak up now, because we need to get
clear on why that is
not cool immediately.
There isn't anyone advocating that; this
discussion started with a
Commons admin threatening to block all es:wp users
from Commons to
stop copyvios from es:wp, because the Commons
admins can't keep up,
evidently because their admin process is strict
enough that pretty
much no-one even bothers trying.
- d.
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