Is it 90%? I haven't seen anyone actually define what
the problem is on foundation-l at least. Is it images
with no info, or false info? Or is just that the new
users aren't using Commons category system unrelated
to copyright? I tried to read the Commons-l archive
to catch up, but I am still unclear on what scope of
the problem is. Does anyone actually have numbers?
Without really knowing the situation, I would say that
I believe all communities struggle to keep up on these
things. Everyone has backlogs they are working
through and these things happen in cycles. One month
you make great progress, another month things are
overwhelming and ground is lost. Perhaps threatening
drastic action is a good way to draw attention and
hopefully solutions when the situation gets
particularly bad. However I think it would really be
useful to talk about the real numbers in this
situation. How much worse is it than what others are
--- Brad Patrick <bradp.wmf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Or, the es.wp users are all not aware of the
restrictions on what is
acceptable. Your earlier post appeared to support
the es.wp position.
This is a problem that should be handled at the
source, not creating
better tools to fix what should not be happening in
the first place.
If, say, 90% of the material being uploaded is
against the grain, why
should we not try to fix the problem at the source?
We are clearly
not doing a good enough job explaning what is okay
and what is not if
this kind of situation has evolved.
On 11/14/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 14/11/06, Brad Patrick
> Commons exists to be a repository for free
culture *and* to serve as
> an inter-wiki storage medium for *free*
it is not a place to
> dump stuff, nor is it a place which exists
independently of other
> Copyright violations are not a minor or trivial
problem. They are a
> serious problem, for which we are obligated
act when they are
> properly brought to our attention. This is
> If there are Wikimedians who are advocating
housing copyrighted media
> in Commons, speak up now, because we need to
clear on why that is
There isn't anyone advocating that; this
discussion started with a
Commons admin threatening to block all es:wp
from Commons to
stop copyvios from es:wp, because the Commons
admins can't keep up,
evidently because their admin process is strict
enough that pretty
much no-one even bothers trying.
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