Hoi, There are two types of cost. There is money and there is attention to people. As far as I am concerned you are a previous big shot of the English chapter and you did not get your way in everything or things moved on. Apparently you have a big problem with that because you can not leave off. You assume that you are right and never mind the PEOPLE cost you will do everything to get your way, move things in the direction of your point of view.
In the mean time you provide a fair example of what many think is wrong with our community. In a previous mail you indicated that you were going on with the things that matter ie content. At the same time you have been in multiple conversations telling others what to do and informing us what constitutes good / best practices.
When you are a WMF employee you may not seek community functions when you leave employment because the notion is that it is best to settle in the new role of not being WMF involved.
Fae, when are you going to settle in your role of the person that is not in charge and let others get on where you stopped being the "big" man ?
The point is very much NOT if they or you are right or not. The point is that you are the wrong person to make such a point. I said it before and it is a Dutch proverb.. "you attempt to rule from the grave" and people think your point is special because of your history. As far as I am concerned you damage the chapter, the community you may once have loved as it was "yours" to decide on.
NB I would LOVE to hear you say that things are moving well. I would love to hear you provide positive ideas / work towards realising positive ideas because that will cement your appreciation and may even make an "elder statesman" out of you eventually. Thanks, GerardM
On 30 May 2014 19:05, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2014 16:12, Jon Davies jon.davies@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: ...
This could help reduce costs and avoid any duplication?
I can now confirm that Wikimedia UK is not going to make a public report of the total costs of sending 8 people to the Wikimedia Conference 2014. I doubt that Jon Davies' wish to reduce costs can be considered a commitment if as the Chief Executive, he has chosen to not report on them.
Discussion on the UK wiki on this topic started on 27 March, and I waited for 5 weeks for an answer to the direct question of costs (raised 24 April), in which time the original discussion thread on the chapter wiki was manually archived and I had to create a second discussion in an attempt to pursue an answer. This wasted volunteer time, employee time and goodwill, if the answer could have been "no, we have no plan to report on these costs" with a rationale as to why.
Perhaps other chapters have reported on costs and can offer links for Jon, in order to show how this can be achieved in a non-bureaucratic, open and transparent fashion for the benefit of chapter members?
Links:
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room/2014#Attendees_at_the_Wikimedia_Co... 2. https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/index.php?title=Engine_room&diff=57343&ol...
Thanks, Fae -- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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