There are two types of cost. There is money and there is attention to
people. As far as I am concerned you are a previous big shot of the English
chapter and you did not get your way in everything or things moved on.
Apparently you have a big problem with that because you can not leave off.
You assume that you are right and never mind the PEOPLE cost you will do
everything to get your way, move things in the direction of your point of
In the mean time you provide a fair example of what many think is wrong
with our community. In a previous mail you indicated that you were going on
with the things that matter ie content. At the same time you have been in
multiple conversations telling others what to do and informing us what
constitutes good / best practices.
When you are a WMF employee you may not seek community functions when you
leave employment because the notion is that it is best to settle in the new
role of not being WMF involved.
Fae, when are you going to settle in your role of the person that is not in
charge and let others get on where you stopped being the "big" man ?
The point is very much NOT if they or you are right or not. The point is
that you are the wrong person to make such a point. I said it before and it
is a Dutch proverb.. "you attempt to rule from the grave" and people think
your point is special because of your history. As far as I am concerned you
damage the chapter, the community you may once have loved as it was "yours"
to decide on.
NB I would LOVE to hear you say that things are moving well. I would love
to hear you provide positive ideas / work towards realising positive ideas
because that will cement your appreciation and may even make an "elder
statesman" out of you eventually.
On 30 May 2014 19:05, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 April 2014 16:12, Jon Davies
This could help reduce costs and avoid any
I can now confirm that Wikimedia UK is not going to make a public
report of the total costs of sending 8 people to the Wikimedia
Conference 2014. I doubt that Jon Davies' wish to reduce costs can be
considered a commitment if as the Chief Executive, he has chosen to
not report on them.
Discussion on the UK wiki on this topic started on 27 March, and I
waited for 5 weeks for an answer to the direct question of costs
(raised 24 April), in which time the original discussion thread on the
chapter wiki was manually archived and I had to create a second
discussion in an attempt to pursue an answer. This wasted volunteer
time, employee time and goodwill, if the answer could have been "no,
we have no plan to report on these costs" with a rationale as to why.
Perhaps other chapters have reported on costs and can offer links for
Jon, in order to show how this can be achieved in a non-bureaucratic,
open and transparent fashion for the benefit of chapter members?
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