If we don't maintain the focus on free media, we may as well direct people
to a web image search, all of which is "use at your own risk" anyway, just
like our proposed new repository. Being free content is the Commons value
add over Google Images or the like. Keeping a nonfree image repository
adds... what?
Also, I don't know what "fair use can be established" means. Fair use is
established based on the particular nature of a specific use, so fair use
for what exactly?
On Jun 17, 2014 10:53 AM, "Delirium" <delirium(a)hackish.org> wrote:
On 6/17/14, 5:52 PM, George William Herbert wrote:
On Jun 17, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson(a)kiwix.org> wrote:
On 17.06.2014 17:26, George William Herbert wrote:
We need an Uncommons, where the strict open
license / PD rules are
abandoned and we accept images as long as their fair use can be
established. And don't delete unless that fair use is credibly questioned.
Conflating and comingling our educational role with open content
advocacy was always risky and is proving impossible. Without devaluing
open content, we need to separately support fair use for educational
purposes, and stop letting cross-project advocacy games screw with our
educational mission.
Third parties may or may not be able to re-redistribute, but we simply
put it up with an explicit "reuse at your own risk".
"reuse at your own risk" = "risky" = "no reuse for most
actors"
Well done!
Not my problem.
Educational role.
The whole mission of the movement, including its educational mission, is
*produce
freely reusable content*, not just to run a website. Wikipedia in
particular is an open-content encyclopedia, which can be adapted to many
educational and other uses, by Wikimedians and third parties. If it's not
an open-content encyclopedia, for example if Wikipedia articles make use of
provincial American copyright loopholes that render them illegal to
redistribute here in Denmark, imo it has failed in its educational mission.
In my view, the fact that I (an educator not in the United States) should
be able to legally reproduce and distribute Wikipedia articles, is part of
the whole point of an open-content educational project.
-Mark
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