This is an interesting point, because many trolls actually WIN when we delete something,
because their trolling is there forever. It should be visible for administrators, or if
you search for it, but not in the deleted article itself.
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From: Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 4:03 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: "content was" when deleting pages - is it useful?
Yes, that's what I imagine.
In the Hebrew Wikipedia, this feature is still active, and someone wondered what is it
actually good for. When I delete pages, I definitely erase things that may be in any way
problematic. And sometimes I delete them even if they aren't. If this feature
didn't exist, it wouldn't bother me. But that's my experience--maybe I'm
missing something.
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בתאריך יום ב׳, 17 בינו׳ 2022 ב-16:35 מאת Newyorkbrad
<newyorkbrad@gmail.com<mailto:newyorkbrad@gmail.com>>:
The problem with this feature was that when the deleted material was libelous, offensive,
etc., it would still automatically be copied into the deletion summary, which served to
defeat the entire purpose of deleting it.
Newyorkbrad/IBM
On Monday, January 17, 2022, Amir E. Aharoni
<amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il<mailto:amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>> wrote:
Hallo!
There's an old MediaWiki feature: When an administrator deletes a page, a bit of its
content is automatically added to an edit summary. This is later viewable in deletion
logs.
If you edit in the English, German, or Italian Wikipedia, then you haven't actually
seen this feature in years, because administrators in these wikis essentially removed it
by locally blanking the system messages that make it work.
In many other wikis, however, this feature is still working.
Is it actually useful? Or should it perhaps be removed?
Here's a Phabricator task about it:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T299351
If you have an opinion, weigh in there or here.
Thanks!
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Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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