Having just watched the talk/show/discussion/dancing, I agree
completely with Steve's comments on wikien-l:
On 29 May 2009, at 04:52, Steve Bennett wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%
2Fwave.google.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
(See from about 31:00 onwards for the relevant bit...)
Real-time collaborative editing. Scroll back and forth through
history, showing changes by a single user or of a single paragraph.
Embedded comments updated in real time. Edit from multiple clients.
Could we please have all of this? This is several orders of magnitude
better than MediaWiki's collaborative editing features.
Steve
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I'm not so sure about the rest of the wave idea (I dislike being
trapped within a browser rather than using the whole of a computer's
interface, and I'm vary wary about the apparent lack of interaction
with existing systems and the whole client-server interaction), I
thought that the interface was amazing.
I would love to see a Wikipedia article develop along the lines of
the play back option; it would be great to be able to instantly edit
Wikipedia, and see other people's edits in real time (although real-
time vandalism could be interesting...). Being able to drag-and-drop
images into an article/onto Commons from a desktop, or from elsewhere
on the web, would be a real timesaver.
Could this be considered by the Usability team, or is this way beyond
their scope? Could we ask Google nicely to come up with a brand new
interface for mediawiki? ;-)
Mike
On 29 May 2009, at 20:10, Milos Rancic wrote:
Probably, some of you already saw that Google made
something for which
I think that it will be the new form of the mainstream Internet
perception. You may read Slashdot article [1], a good description at
the blog "Google Operating System" [2] (not officially connected with
Google) and, of course, you may see the official site with more than
one hour of presentation [3].
I expected such kind of tool (a client connected with others via P2P
XML-based protocol; with servers for identification). However, I
didn't expect that i will come so soon, that it will be done by one
large corporation and that it will be done at the right way: open
protocol, free software referent implementation.
At the official site they said that it will start to work during this
year. As one large corporation is behind the project, as well as free
and open source community is able to participate, I have no doubts
that it will be implemented all over the Internet (and not just
Internet) very quickly. Probably, in two years the basic component of
one modern operating system will not be a Web browser, but a Wave
client. Probably, Web will become a storage system, while all of the
interaction will be done via Waves.
This development of Internet is very strongly related to the
Wikimedia projects:
* I want to be able to edit Wikipedia through the Wave client.
* I want to add my own notes to articles, history of articles etc.
* I want to have collection of my knowledge at one place, including
Wikipedia articles and my notes.
* I want to be able to make a program which would analyze articles on
Wikipedia and to give program and/or analysis to my friends.
* I want many more things to be browsable or editable or whatever from
a Wave client...
All of those my (but, in one year, not just my) wishes may be
fulfilled just through work on MediaWiki and Pywikipediabot. So, I am
calling all of you who are willing to think about it or who are at the
position to think about it -- to start with thinking :)
[1] -
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/05/28/1912226/Googles-Wave-
Blurs-Chat-Email-Collaboration-Software
[2] -
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/05/google-wave.html
[3] -
http://wave.google.com/
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