How can you experiment and explore while going through processes like that? The policy
already applied for the IdeaLab areas during inspire (including letting the community know
beforehand). I think process for processes sake, especially on meta, does more harm then
good.
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Wikimedia Foundation
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On Jul 19, 2015, at 16:55, Pine W
<wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm. It seems to me that having WMF create a policy for conduct that it
imposes on non-WMF wikis would effectively be an office action
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_actions>, and the policy for office
actions doesn't seem to contemplate them being expanded in to general
moderation of Wikimedia sites. I don't know what Board resolutions would
allow for WMF to impose a policy like this on its own; it seems to me that
the correct routes to take are (1) a Board resolution, which is probably
more appropriate for a ToS amendment that I hope will come after community
consultation, or (2) a community RfC that creates community policy. If
there is another way that staff is authorized to create policies that
govern volunteer-created content, I'm not aware of it. Perhaps the Board
should consider creating one.
Pine
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Kirill Lokshin <kirill.lokshin(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sun,
Jul 19, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
1. Will the friendly-space "expectations" (policy?) for grants spaces on
Meta be proposed as an RfC on Meta? The documentation on the rollout plan
doesn't mention and RfC. My understanding is that the right way to
implement a policy change like this on Meta is for it to go through an
open
and transparent RfC process, and that the
implementation decision is
ultimately the community's to make. The experience would inform further
discussions about (1) a project-wide friendly space policy on Meta, and
(2)
a wider consultation on a friendly space
amendment to the ToS that the
WMF
Board may eventually ratify.
I don't see any reason why an RFC would be required (or appropriate) here.
The grantmaking process is a WMF function, and the associated pages on meta
are managed by the WMF grantmaking team; they are free to impose
requirements (such as compliance with a friendly space standard) on anyone
participating in that process (whether as an applicant or as a commenter or
reviewer).
Kirill
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