Bryan Tong Minh wrote:
> On 10/21/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
>>> Having tried editing anonymously for a few weeks myself, I
>>> can assure you our treatment of newcomers - even those that
>>> understand things from a technical perspective - leaves
>>> much to be desired.
>>>
>> This has become one of our biggest problems.
>>
> "Our" as in "The English Wikipedia's biggest problem" or the
biggest
> problem for all our projects?
on 10/21/07 4:37 PM, Ray Saintonge at saintonge(a)telus.net wrote:
"Our" as in _all_ the projects. They are
most evident in the English
Wikipedia, but that may be a function of its size as much as anything.
<snip>
The descent into disfunctionality that has been so
obvious in the en-wikipedia is not a development that comes overnight,
and it will not occur at the same rate on all projects. <snip.
I don't mean to single you out here, Ray. Yes, actually I do, because you
are one of the few objective, rational minds left on en-wikipedia. And, as
evidenced by your writings, seem to have a sensitivity for interpersonal
dynamics. The statement you made above is one of several made by some others
recently regarding the cultural conditions there. What the hell is it going
to take in that project to wake people up to the fact that you cannot solve
interpersonal problems with a keystroke and an admin weapon?
Marc Riddell