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On 26 August 2014 13:03, svetlana <svetlana(a)fastmail.com.au> wrote:
Hi,
David Goodman wrote:
Perhaps the best way of doing this is the
admittedly laborious method of
personally communicating with new editors who seem promising and
encouraging them and offering to help them continue. The key word in this
is "personally". It cannot be effectively done with wikilove messages ,
and certainly not with anything that looks like a template. Template
welcomes are essentially in the same class as mail or web
"personalized"advertisements. What works is to show that you actually
read
and appreciated what they are doing, to the
extent you wanted to write
something specific.
Thanks, I agree. I'm pretty passionate about making a difference in this
area. I would personally go and start doing that /right now/, but the
question remains open: Which activity should I engage in for all that to
happen?
- Look at recent edits and collaborate with new people? That's a most
thankless item on this list, perhaps, as people edit more than anything
else.
- Look at newly created pages and collaborate on those with due care and
attention to the new people? That'd be nice. (although imo the drafts
process at English Wikipedia creates an unnecessary hierarchy -- I'd love
to remain a peer and treat the newcomer as a source of wonderful knowledge,
not as a reviewee or mentoree. For this reason, I might perhaps only do
this to articles created in main namespace.)
- I had written a script [2] which makes draft review things more personal
by not using a template in review comments, but I couldn't figure out whom
to approach to get it deployed, or how to prevent ugly [3] templates on
talk pages of people who submitted a draft for review.
- Reworking the welcome template into something else? Into what
specifically?
- There are other things I tried to do, such as leave simple short
messages such as [4], but I have not been doing enough of them to figure
out who likes them.
- Many many examples, warning vandals for example, completely template
thing, they get reborn as trolls, etc. see also [5]. But there is a need to
not feed them still, i.e. put some effort into personal communication but
not too much.
- Figuring out how to provide IP contributors with more software, up to
the point it's technically possible? ([1] lists some software limitations).
- <add your thought here>
How do I set priorities in such list? Where to start tackling the problem?
svetlana
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Musings_about_unregistered_contributors
[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gryllida/DraftsReview
[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Artistintown
[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:128.194.3.84
[5]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Clogged_talk_pages
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