noting:for give my missing any finer point my German isnt sufficient to
read the discussion without the aid of google translate
The question your asking is should the author of the image have the right
to enforce the licensing of work they have uploaded. The position you take
is that they dont have that right which means you want all media uploaded
under an effective Public Domain License.
The de.community voted to accept the proposal outcome based on a majority
not an absolute 2/3rd majority. When the was discussion closed the
proposal was rejected, you have come here to Wikimedia-l to ask for a
second Common to be established to exclude work by authors who exercise
their right to uphold the license under which the work was provided and ask
that this new commons has the right to relicense an authors work under
other licenses.
As side issue is what looks like an external forum presented one side of
the argument while the discussion was on going, your using this as
justification for asking here.
Commons has a very clear licensing page
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing of whats acceptable
licensing with media uploaded there.
To me what I see here basic forum shopping after the de.community rejected
your proposal.... IMHO if you want to change or put limitations on
licensing then discussing it on Commons would be a first step. Doing so
without a direct proposal to change licensing or delete(exclude) the works
of others would enable a wider view and other possible suitable outcomes.
I would suggest that when starting the discussion that evidence be
presented to support the accusations being made, if the google translators
choice of words are accurate then it needs to be well substantiated ....
On 2 March 2017 at 13:44, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> wrote:
on the german wikipedia there was a poll to ban images
of users who
send cease and desist letters, triggered by a recent case of thomas
wolf trying to charge 1200 euro out of a tiny non-profit which
improperly reused one of his images [1]. thomas article work includs
"improving text deserts, and changing bad images to (often his own)
better quality images"[2]. there is a broad majority against people
who use cease and desist letters as a business model. anyway a small
number of persons do have such a business model, some of them even
administrators on commons, like alexander savin [3][4].
but the topic of course is much more subtle than described above, the
discussion was heated, and the result close - as always in the last 10
years. a digital divide between persons supporting the original
mindset of wikipedia which sees every additional reuse, unrestricted,
as success, and the ones who think it is not desired to incorrectly
reference, or feel that others should not make money out of their
work.
as both are viable opinions would it be possible to split commons in
two, for every opinion? the new commons would include safe licenses
like cc-4.0 and users who are friendly to update their licenses to
better ones in future. the old commons would just stay as it is. a
user of wikipedia can easy distinguish if she wants to include both
sources, or only one of them? there is only one goal: make cease and
desist letters as business model not interesting any more,
technically, while keeping the morale of contributors high, both
sides.
[1]
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/
keine_Bilder_in_Artikelnamensraum_von_direkt_abmahnenden_Fotografen
[2]
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Der_Wolf_im_Wald
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:A.Savin
[4]
https://tarnkappe.info/ausgesprochen-peinlich-abmahnfalle-wikipedia-
interview-mit-simplicius/
best
rupert
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