We need an Uncommons, where the strict open license / PD rules are abandoned and we accept
images as long as their fair use can be established. And don't delete unless that
fair use is credibly questioned.
Conflating and comingling our educational role with open content advocacy was always risky
and is proving impossible. Without devaluing open content, we need to separately support
fair use for educational purposes, and stop letting cross-project advocacy games screw
with our educational mission.
Third parties may or may not be able to re-redistribute, but we simply put it up with an
explicit "reuse at your own risk".
I don't recall if the code which handles finding images at Commons can take a search
path of multiple alternate image sources; if so, I would like to propose Uncommons as a
project, initial central file upload default target replacement for Commons, and putting
it in said search path.
This has gone on too long.
-george william herbert
george.herbert(a)gmail.com
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On Jun 17, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Osmar Valdebenito <b1mbo.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If you take a look at the undeletion requests after
the URAA discussion,
most of the images restored were deleted afterwards anyway.[1][2] The only
exception that I've seen are some German stamps that haven't been deleted
(yet).
The problem is that, at this moment, most of the people whose valid images
were quickly deleted and re-deleted are tired and have no intention to
start again defending their contributions when they will be deleted no
matter what.
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Per%C3%B3…
[2]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2014…
2014-06-17 10:31 GMT-04:00 Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 17/06/2014, Tomasz Ganicz
<polimerek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
with final consensus that "URAA cannot be
used as the sole reason for
deletion"...
This is a selective quote, missing the explicit caveat that:
"Deleted files can be restored after a discussion in COM:UDR."
If the process is being followed correctly, there should be an
established specific consensus via an undeletion request, *before* an
administrator action can or should be taken.
Links:
1.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Massive_restoration_of_deleted_i…
2.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requ…
Fae
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faewik(a)gmail.com
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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