Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia movement under DMCA attack!

15 Nov 2017


      Huh?
Thanks,
       GerardM
Op wo 15 nov. 2017 om 14:24 schreef Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com
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On the other hand, I would like see WMF starts fixing harm done by its
cultural neocolonial actions in Brazil and India.
On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Asaf Bartov asaf.bartov@gmail.com
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A message from your list moderators:
This thread does not belong on this list.
It is spillover of a long and bitter conflict in the Portuguese
community,
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and this list's membership is not well situated to contribute to a
solution
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through discussion on this list.  Those particularly interested and able
can participate in relevant threads on the Portuguese Wikipedia.
However, moving the mutual recriminations onto this list is escalation
that
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can only upset people and exacerbate the conflict, and is not an
effective
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way to seek help.
As was mentioned, the matter involves allegations of harassment --
investigated by the Support and Safety team in the Community Engagement
department at WMF -- as well as legal action.  Both avenues would not
benefit from partial and probably-biased context shared on this list.
The parties in conflict should continue to seek a modus vivendi on the
wiki
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they share, on-wiki, as well as through the channels they are already
pursuing.  Smearing the other side on this list won't accomplish
anything.
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Accordingly, *please stop posting on this thread*.  We have also placed
the
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Brazilians involved in this conflict on temporary moderation, to prevent
further escalation.
(putting on my WMF hat for a moment -- As a further point of context,
both
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sides have at one point requested WMF intervention in Brazil.  WMF has
not
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yet announced whether and how it would intervene, though several
alternatives have been discussed. Stay tuned.)
 A.


On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:47 PM Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
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This is a very complex long-term "war" which, in my experience, never
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in a "reconciliation".
Also, honestly, I don't think how can this comply with wikiversity
mission.
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2017-11-06 15:30 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychoslave@culture-libre.org>:
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Thank Chico and Henrique for your reports and related links.
I encourage both of you to document further this topic. But as the
mailing
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list format might quickly turn it into a flameware, to avoid list
moderators some disagreeable work, you could preferably find more
suited
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place to develop your points. Punctual feedback on the list to signal
creation or update of additional external resources is welcome, as
far as
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I'm concerned.
You might, inter alia, use wikimedia-timeline[1] to generate an
overview
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of main statements you are claiming, each linked to related resources
which
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let reader deepen their inquiry on the topic if they have interest and
resources to do so.
If you are interested to turn that in a research project as objective
as
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you might be able to create, I also encourage you to open a research
project on a Wikiversity instance, after a check of how such a project
might be conducted on the selected instance. You might also like to
create
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and conduct some interviews and publish them on Wikinews.
I hope that the difficult situation you are passing through will end
up
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in
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the most contributive, positive and placid possible resolution.
Kind regards,
mathieu
[1] https://github.com/molly/wikimedia-timeline
Le 06/11/2017 à 11:59, Chico Venancio a écrit :
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Ended up with out the links, sorry:
[1]http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/wikibrasil.org.html
[2]https://www.whois.com/whois/107.180.2.118
[3]http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/leis/L9610.htm#art24
Chico Venancio
2017-11-06 7:53 GMT-03:00 Chico Venancio chicocvenancio@gmail.com:
To all on the list, *this is characterization is filled with obvious
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lies.*
The DMCA was filed a month ago simply *DID NOT TAKE the site
down*.[1]
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Henrique quickly took down the article offending copyright and
Godaddy
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allowed it to continue to be hosted.[2]
Henrique is a paid contractor of the user group Wiki Education
Brazil
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that
has repeatedly harassed several members of our user group (Joalpe
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myself included). And is probably here acting as a Meatpuppet of
another
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user who is under an Office action interaction ban to interact with
either
myself or João.
That he goes on an international platform to call on the Dean of the
university were João works is egregious harassment and WMF should
not
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only
impose severe sanctions, but review both the grant and affiliation
agreements with the "user group" were this comes from.
On the merits, after the event the organizer harassed several of our
members, and to me it is completely understandable that João does
not
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want
his name attached to an event that harassed him and others. There
was
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on
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more than one occasion hints of physical violence from a member of
Wiki
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Education Brazil, and at one point those hints came to level of
actually
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using the words "beating" in reference to another member of our user
group,
Teles, who was also called a famous Wikipedia despot, that he needed
psychiatric attention, and that he needed to find a boyfriend on a
public
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facebook thread.
The CC-BY 3.0 Henrique alleges to have on the article is clearly
invalid
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for several reasons, one being he did not have one from the
co-authors
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of
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the work. Even if he did, Brazilian law supersedes it and clearly
states
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that the author has the inalienable moral right to revoke any
license
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and
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remove from circulation in any form when the use represents an
affront
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to
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his image or reputation.[3] That Henrique confesses that he, and the
user
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banned from interacting with myself or Joalpe, knew that license was
not
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given by João and that an explicit revocation was placed onwiki,
only
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makes
the copyright violation willful and demonstrates that no assumption
of
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good
faith can be reasonably made. This was an explicit provocation from
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"User Group" Wiki Education Brazil to João.
Best to all on the Wikimedia Movement,
Hoping for a movement with less tolerance for harassment,
Chico Venancio (User:Chicocvenancio)
2017-11-06 1:08 GMT-03:00 Henrique de Andrade <
henriquedeandrade@gmail.com
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> Friends, it took me a month to join forces and get the courage to
write
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> story below.
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> The Wiki Education Brazil user group has had its website [1]
shutted
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> down
> due to an attack using the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA),
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> the
> most shocking of this story is that the legal threat was made by a
> "member"
> of the Wikimedia community: Mr. João Alexandre Peschanski, who uses
the
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> username Joalpe.
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> My unreal saga began on October 7th when I received an email
informing
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> me
> that the WMF Support and Safety team had received a complaint from
> Joalpe
> that his copyright was being violated by the publication on the I
> CCBWIKI
> (I Brazilian Scientific Congress of Wikipedia) website of a paper
which
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> he
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> I thought this situation was very strange and I imagined it was a
> misunderstanding. I promptly in good faith emailed Joalpe, copying
WMF
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> team, trying to figure out what could have led to this misleading
> interpretation that we were committing a copyright infringement. In
the
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> email I reminded him that he knows several members of the Wiki Edu
> Brazil
> group and that he could communicate directly with us if he was
bothered
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> with something and that, if he wanted to, I could remove from the
site
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> the
> work of which he is a co-author, even though it is on the CC-BY 3.0
> license.
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> To my surprise I never received a reply from Joalpe. Instead, two
days
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> after my contact arrives a message from GoDaddy (company where the
Wiki
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> Edu
> Brasil’s site is hosted in the United States) informing that we
have
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> received a "complete DMCA complaint", made by the Center for
Research,
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> Innovation and Diffusion in Neuromamatics of the University of São
Paulo
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> (CEPID NeuroMat - USP), signed by João Alexandre Peschanski.
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> In this complaint he alleges that in the page that I made with the
texts
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> sent to the I CCBWIKI there would be a text of which he is one of
the
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> authors and that he would have revoked our authorization to publish
it,
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> accuses us of not giving the due credits in the work and implies
that
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we
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> would have copied the content from another conference, prior to
CCBWIKI,
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> where it would have been originally published.
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> I lack words to describe my revolt at such absurd lies. First: not
only
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> the authorization not revoked but also a Creative Commons
publication
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> could
> not have its permission revoked for sharing. Secondly, in fact his
name
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> did
> not appear on the page listing the papers, because the main author
of
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> the
> article did not register it correctly in the system, but when
clicking
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> on
> the file his name was in the credits correctly. Third: the
published
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> content was exactly the one sent by the author David Fernando Levon
> Alves
> on August 29, 2016, and until the current unfortunate legal threat
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> not even know of the existence of Intercom conference, where I now
know
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> that the same paper had been presented in September 9th.
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> And Joalpe knows all about it! Even on page that he links[2] in his
> complaint saying that is proof of him having revoked our
authorization
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> for
> publication, he clearly says that he disallows the publication of
the
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> paper
> his is the main author, and that he would talk to the other author
to
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> propose withdrawing the paper in question, and the chair of the
event
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> promptly replied indicating that the dialogue should continue
through
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> the
> conference management system (it is worth noting that he said he
would
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> like
> to withdraw his work because he has never seen an academic
conference
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> that
> does not pay for the transfer and accommodations for all, an
argument
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> that
> does not make any sense to anyone that minimally knows the reality
of
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> Brazilian academy).
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> Still bewildered by this nonsense I had to decide what to do. The
DMCA
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> notice gave us two options: either to remove the illegally posted
file
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> or
> to contest the complaint. Thinking about justice, we would
obviously
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opt
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> for the second option because we were not doing anything illegal.
But
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> within the cruel logic of the DMCA, we were given an absurd 24-hour
> deadline to send a response and our page was already off. It is
worth
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> mentioning that at that moment our host removed all the pages in
the
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> domain
> wikibrasil.org, and not just the page with the annals of the
previous
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> conference. In this way, projects such as IWSC and WLM that were in
key
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> moments of their execution were also unavailable to users. So, to
the
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> very
> annoyance we had to remove the file (as if we were guilty!) In
order
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to
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> request that the sites be republished.
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> Yet stunned by this, I asked for help from the WMF’s Trust & Safety
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> the
> Legal Team. Both were sympathetic, but the WMF's legal support
policies
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> provide support only for problems regarding content hosted on the
> foundation's servers, and since that was not the case, I could not
> receive
> formal legal support. Unsure, fearing the possible legal
implications
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of
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> the complaint, and without knowing how to defend myself I spoke
with
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> groups
> of free culture and defense of freedom of expression and concluded
that
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> the
> best way to defend myself would be to publicize the ongoing
persecution.
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> The days that followed were very difficult for me. Whenever I had
to
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> deal
> with any wiki subject I was taken by a feeling of revolt and could
not
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> do
> anything. I spent hours trying to write these words but I just
couldn’t
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> do
> it. Having to face a legal threat through the DMCA may already be
> something
> to wrap the stomach itself, but having to do it knowing that who
> denounces
> know he is lying, says himself a defender of free culture and is
even
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a
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> member of the Wikimedia community is unbelievably revolting!
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> We all know that wikis communities are not a bed of roses and I
have
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> several times left and I stopped editing because of the bullying
done
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by
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> users like him. But this time I won’t shut up! The destructive
behavior
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> of
> this person has escalated in a way that is forcing me to spend all
my
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> time
> studying United States copyright law to defend myself from
something I
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> did
> not do, and he knows it well. This user used his influence to move
the
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> largest university in Latin America into an international legal
threat
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> against the movement he claims to be a part of. We need to stop it!
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> For those who do not know this user, it is worth pointing out that
he
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> leads
> a users group, and receives funding from WMF to conduct outreach
> activities. I repeat: This person who uses the DMCA to legally
threaten
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> members of the Wikimedia community is receiving money from our
movement
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> to
> fund their projects. We can not accept this anymore! Joao Alexandre
> Peschanski (a.k.a. Joalpe) should be boycotted in every possible
way
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by
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> the
> Wikimedia movement. A copyright troll should never receive grants,
be
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> accepted in our spaces and have the right to speak on behalf of our
> community!
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> In addition to measures within the Wikimedia community I also ask
for
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> your
> support to help with my defense of Joalpe's attack on the legal
world. I
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> call upon all advocates of free culture, freedom of knowledge and
the
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> Wikimedia movement to endorse the following petition [3],
addressed to
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> the
> University of São Paulo, demanding that it immediately withdraw the
> complaint of violation to the DMCA made against the Wiki Educação
Brasil
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> group, and that it immediately stops pursuing free-culture
movements
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in
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> Brazil and in the world:
> https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente-
> de-usar-a-justiça-americana-para-tirar-site-wiki-brasil-do-ar
> https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente-
 de-usar-a-justi>
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> I publish this letter still frightened, but already without fear
and
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> confident that united we will overcome one more attack that
threatens
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> not
> only the Wikimedia movement, but the whole culture of free
knowledge.
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> "Imagine a world in which every person on the planet has free
access
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to
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> sum of all human knowledge. That is what we are doing." Jimbo Wales
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> Sincerely,
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> Henrique de Andrade (User: HenriqueCrang)
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> [1] http://wikibrasil.org
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> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki_Education_Brazil/
> Events/Congresso_Científico_Brasileiro_da_Wikipédia/2016#
> Tr.C3.AAs_d.C3.BAvidas
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki_Education_Brazil/
 Events/Congresso_Cient>
>
> [3]
> https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente-
> de-usar-a-justiça-americana-para-tirar-site-wiki-brasil-do-ar
> https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente-
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