The main advantage I can see, is that it requires a conscious decision to
not be transparent, rather than a conscious effort to be transparent. There
are many cases where deletion is warranted, but the content is not of the
type that including a sample would be harmful. So from the point of view of
an early community, I can definitely see why this functionality would be
desirable.
The question becomes how that balance works out by now: do we need
reminders to be transparent to non-admins about our actions? In what
percentage of cases do we want to be transparent? And how likely is it that
the admin forgets the default, and accidentally publishes the summary, when
they wouldn't want to? This trade-off may be different from community to
community.
Just a thought, definitely appreciate it when communities think about these
settings rather than accepting that it is the way it has always been!
Lodewijk
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:35 PM Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
If the reason for deletion was to suppress undesirable
content, why would
one want part of it to remain viewable? Cheers, Peter
*From:* Vi to [mailto:vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 17 January 2022 23:45
*To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
*Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: "content was" when deleting pages - is it
useful?
On it.wiki we removed both this and "the only editor was..." which proved
to be misleading for newcomers, e.g. "I don't think that being the sole
editor is a valid reason for this deletion".
Vito
Il giorno lun 17 gen 2022 alle ore 15:19 Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> ha scritto:
Hallo!
There's an old MediaWiki feature: When an administrator deletes a page, a
bit of its content is automatically added to an edit summary. This is later
viewable in deletion logs.
If you edit in the English, German, or Italian Wikipedia, then you haven't
actually seen this feature in years, because administrators in these wikis
essentially removed it by locally blanking the system messages that make it
work.
In many other wikis, however, this feature is still working.
Is it actually useful? Or should it perhaps be removed?
Here's a Phabricator task about it:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T299351
If you have an opinion, weigh in there or here.
Thanks!
--
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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