Ah, OK, so it's not "intended to serve the entire Wikimedia movement!" -
it's focused on internal Wikimedia training, not external users? I
missed that, sorry, and thanks for the correction.
It's still quite embarrassing that WMF doesn't like 'dogfooding':
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food
Particularly when projects like Wikiversity are in dire need of
technical support, and WMF is putting technical effort into running
platforms like this rather than putting that effort into improving our
own projects. Imagine if Google said "to find out how to suggest an edit
on Google Maps, search on our local installation of Bing for help"?
Thanks,
Mike
On 13/5/22 00:00:42, Rae Adimer via Wikimedia-l wrote:
> Mike,
>
> As I understand it, this platform is for curated courses related to
> editing Wikipedia. Wikiversity has a much wider scope. I don't see a
> conflict between them.
>
> Best,
> Rae
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 6:50 PM Mike Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net
> <mailto:email@mikepeel.net>> wrote:
>
> But if WMF is choosing to actively support and develop a new
> platform for this kind of activity, and continues to not support
> Wikiversity to do the same, that’s quite a clear message?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>> On 12 May 2022, at 22:57, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org
>> <mailto:abartov@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> No. There is no change to Wikiversity. It remains... what it is.
>>
>> A.
>>
>>
>>
>> Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>>
>> Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>>
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>
>>
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
>> in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>>
https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:24 PM Mike Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net
>> <mailto:email@mikepeel.net>> wrote:
>>
>> So ... is that the end of Wikiversity?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 11/5/22 23:50:48, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>> > Yes, the platform is intended to serve the entire Wikimedia
>> movement!
>> >
>> > We plan to pilot with some trusted affiliates first, to iron
>> out kinks
>> > and to take our time co-creating governance structures for
>> the platform
>> > with the broader community. Once those are in place,
>> authoring on the
>> > platform would become available to all Wikimedians.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > A.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
>> >
>> > Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
>> >
>> > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>> <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely
>> share
>> > in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>> >
https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org>
>> <https://donate.wikimedia.org
<https://donate.wikimedia.org>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 9:20 PM Samuel Klein
>> <meta.sj(a)gmail.com <mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com
<mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > This is beautiful. Nice to see Open edX in use.
>> > Feels like incentive to package a range of workshops and
>> materials
>> > up in a reusable and discoverable way! Open to WikiEdu
>> + other
>> > community courses also?
>> >
>> > SJ
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:25 PM Cassie Casares
>> > <ccasares(a)wikimedia.org
<mailto:ccasares@wikimedia.org>
>> <mailto:ccasares@wikimedia.org
>> <mailto:ccasares@wikimedia.org>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> >
>> > TheCommunity Development team
>> >
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Development
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Development>>is
>> > pleased to announce the courses that were delivered
>> during the
>> > WikiLearn Pilot
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiLearn>>are
>> > now available for self-guided study on the
>> newWikiLearn platform
>> > <https://learn.wiki/ <https://learn.wiki/>>,
based
>> on the free software Open edX.
>> >
>>
<https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034&g_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&g_campaignid=16772388216&g_adgroupid=140810411408&g_adid=562435444795&g_keyword=edx&g_keywordid=kwd-89882436&g_network=g&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=edx&hsa_acc=7245054034&hsa_cam=16772388216&hsa_grp=140810411408&hsa_ad=562435444795&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-89882436&hsa_kw=edx&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE
>>
<https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034&g_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&g_campaignid=16772388216&g_adgroupid=140810411408&g_adid=562435444795&g_keyword=edx&g_keywordid=kwd-89882436&g_network=g&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=edx&hsa_acc=7245054034&hsa_cam=16772388216&hsa_grp=140810411408&hsa_ad=562435444795&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-89882436&hsa_kw=edx&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE>>Open
>> > edX
>> >
>>
<https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034&g_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&g_campaignid=16772388216&g_adgroupid=140810411408&g_adid=562435444795&g_keyword=edx&g_keywordid=kwd-89882436&g_network=g&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=edx&hsa_acc=7245054034&hsa_cam=16772388216&hsa_grp=140810411408&hsa_ad=562435444795&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-89882436&hsa_kw=edx&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE
>>
<https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034&g_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&g_campaignid=16772388216&g_adgroupid=140810411408&g_adid=562435444795&g_keyword=edx&g_keywordid=kwd-89882436&g_network=g&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=edx&hsa_acc=7245054034&hsa_cam=16772388216&hsa_grp=140810411408&hsa_ad=562435444795&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-89882436&hsa_kw=edx&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE>>is
>> > a free software learning management system that was
>> started in
>> > 2012, and is developed in Python using the Django
>> framework.
>> >
>> >
>> > The platform will host courses developed by
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> > teams on a variety of topics relevant to doing
>> Wikimedia work.
>> > The intended audience of the platform is Wikimedia
>> contributors
>> > of all kinds, and all you need to access the
>> platform is your
>> > existing Wikimedia account. As we continue to evolve
>> some
>> > governance mechanisms for the platform, it will
>> become open for
>> > contribution from all Wikimedia contributors.
>> >
>> >
>> > You can access the platform at learn.wiki
>> <https://learn.wiki/ <https://learn.wiki/>>
>> >
>> >
>> > The courses currently available from the Community
>> Development
>> > team are:
>> >
>> >
>> > 1.
>> >
>> > Introduction to Building Partnerships -This
>> course will
>> > provide an in-depth curriculum on how to develop
>> meaningful
>> > programmatic and organizational partnerships
>> within the
>> > movement and with external partners.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2.
>> >
>> > Addressing Harassment Online - This short,
>> introductory
>> > course will focus on developing skills that will
>> help
>> > volunteers empathetically respond to online
>> harassment.
>> >
>> >
>> > These courses are self-paced and graded by the original
>> > instructors of the live course. A computer graded
>> version of
>> > these courses will be available shortly. The current
>> courses are
>> > published in English with potential translation
>> possible in FY 22-23
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please note that the self-paced/human-graded format
>> will return
>> > marked assignments on a bi-weekly/monthly basis
>> depending on
>> > capacity.
>> >
>> >
>> > Each course has been adapted from its original live
>> format to be
>> > suitable for self-paced study. The Identifying and
>> Addressing
>> > Harassmentcourse was authored and taught by Simona
>> Ramkisson
>> >
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SRamkisson_(WMF)
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:SRamkisson_(WMF)>>. The
>> > Introduction to Partnership Buildingcourse was
>> authored and
>> > taught by Asaf Bartov
>> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Asaf_(WMF)
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Asaf_(WMF)>>.
>> >
>> >
>> > All Wikimedians with an active Wikimedia account can
>> login to
>> > the WikiLearn platform using their Wikimedia
>> identity (OAuth)
>> > without needing a separate account.
>> >
>> >
>> > If you have any questions or concerns about the
>> courses or the
>> > learning management system Open edX
>> >
>>
<https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034&g_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&g_campaignid=16772388216&g_adgroupid=140810411408&g_adid=562435444795&g_keyword=edx&g_keywordid=kwd-89882436&g_network=g&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=edx&hsa_acc=7245054034&hsa_cam=16772388216&hsa_grp=140810411408&hsa_ad=562435444795&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-89882436&hsa_kw=edx&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE
>>
<https://www.edx.org/?g_acctid=724-505-4034&g_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&g_campaignid=16772388216&g_adgroupid=140810411408&g_adid=562435444795&g_keyword=edx&g_keywordid=kwd-89882436&g_network=g&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=gs-b2c-us-brand-core-roas&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=edx&hsa_acc=7245054034&hsa_cam=16772388216&hsa_grp=140810411408&hsa_ad=562435444795&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-89882436&hsa_kw=edx&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0n1bwsYmA8VKTTsJnwIR2_8Z_BQd6S1pQWgUItNyY-gI8bRSE27LgbBoCiQYQAvD_BwE>>,
>> > please email the Community Development team at
>> > comdevteam(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:comdevteam@wikimedia.org>
>> <mailto:comdevteam@wikimedia.org
>> <mailto:comdevteam@wikimedia.org>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> >
>> > The Community Development Team
>> >
>> >
>> > Cassie Casares
>> > Program Support Associate
>> > Community Development
>> > Wikimedia Foundation
>> > ccasares(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:ccasares@wikimedia.org>
>> <mailto:ccasares@wikimedia.org
<mailto:ccasares@wikimedia.org>>
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