on 1/10/09 6:59 AM, David Gerard at dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
I note that I have asked you before if you've actually attempted to work directly with the community on-wiki, and you demurred: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2009-January/097693.html You claim to be defending the community in the abstract, but don't appear to want to put in the effort to actually work directly with the people in said community.
2009/1/10 Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net:
David, if you mean the endless, circular, defensive battles that go on in the Talk Pages of the English Wikipedia, no; I am not willing to put what time I have there. The objective in such warfare seems to be to win at any cost; not a discussion to resolve issues in a cause both sides of the argument supposedly believe in and want to improve. There needs to be a better mechanism for such discussions; or, at least, a culture more skilled in the process of arbitration and decision making.
on 1/10/09 9:48 AM, David Gerard at dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, people are difficult to work with and remain the key problem in dealing with them. What do you propose to deal with this?
It is the process of communication that is the problem, David, not the people. The process - not the people. Learn the difference.
Marc Riddell