To better clarify:
Projects should find volunteers, partners, or grants
to invest in new features. However once that
investment is done the b'crats of a wiki do not have
the ability to turn it on, activate it, whatever the
right terminology is. A developer who is somehow
under the oversight of WMF must decide if an extention
that has been developed is acceptable for a Wikimedia
wiki. I don't know how they decide that, but I
imagine it has to do with security and stability. If
they decide it is acceptable, the extention is put on
the wiki. If they decide it is not, then they tell
the requesting parties why it is not acceptable.
Presumably the people who worked on it originally (not
WMF developers) go back to work on it for another try
or else they give up on it.
I am specifing what WMF's responsibilty is AFTER the
investments you are talking about have already been
made. I am not putting any constrainsts on the actual
development of features.
Birgitte SB
--- Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I think you misunderstand me. I am not talking
about
developers writing code for extentions, but simply a
developer "turning on" an existing extension or else
saying they will not turn on that extension unitil
some specified problem is fixed.
Birgitte SB
--- Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
Do not put artificial constraints in. When an
extension is realistic in
that it provides a service that will benefit a
particular project or
even language, it may be that an investment in
developer time of more
that three months is worth the effort. When a
project is expensive,
there are all kinds of grants possible to gain
either developer time or
money to pay for the development of this code.
Often
it is not only a
WMF project that does benefit from an extension.
When such parties are
found and when the development becomes a shared
effort much more becomes
feasible.
Thanks,
GerardM
Birgitte SB schreef:
> The WMF provides the essential infrastructure
and
an
organizational framework for the support and
development of multilingual wiki projects.
Wikimedia
wikis must be able to technically adapt in an
individual manner to succeed.
Needs to be met?
Local extension requests must be evaluated by a
developer with the ability to implement them
within
> three months.
> For whom?
> Wikimedia communities
> At what cost?
> Not sure; at the cost of other bugs I suppose.
On
the
> waiting side, three months seems like a long
time
to
find out if an extension is acceptable or needs
more
> work. But if it is not realistic to people on
the
developer
side, please adjust to any set time
period.
> Birgitte SB
> --- Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> In the past few days, I have explored more
> systematically the policy
> governance model, and how it could be
implemented.By
>> the way, I found a
>> short article about it on the english wikipedia
:
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Governance
>>
>>
>> One of the things the board has to design is
what
is
> called the ENDS.
> In each ends, the board defines which needs are
to
>> be met, for whom, and
>> at what cost.
>>
>> Let me give you two examples of ends.
>> *******************************
>>
>>
>> The WMF is the host provider of several
websites,
>> referred to as
>> Wikimedia project. Wikimedia websites must be
up
>> and running
>> efficiently, 24/24 hours, 7 days a week. That
is
the
> priority of WMF.
>
> Needs to be met ?
> Information must be accessible anytime.
>
> For whom ?
> Any person with internet access
>
> At what cost ?
> Well, within limits reasonable with the revenue
we
> have. If we had
> figures to mention, we could say max 1 million
per
>> year.
>> *******************************
>>
>>
>> Another example
>>
>> The WMF is the organiser of an annual
conference,
>
Wikimania.
>
> Needs to be met ?
> Both a scientific conference and a community
event,
>> Wikimania brings
>> together members of various Wikimedia projects
in
> order
to exchange
> ideas, build relationships, and report on
research
> and project efforts.
> It also provides an opportunity for Wikimedians
and
>> the general public
>> alike to meet and share ideas about free and
open
>
source software, free
> knowledge initiatives, and wiki projects
worldwide.
>
For whom ?
> Primarily for Wikimedians. Secondarily for the
> general public
>
> At what cost ?
> No cost. WMF should find sponsors to cover
Wikimania
> costs by large.
> *******************************
>
> Now, these are two easy ends to define.
> What I would like to ask you help on, is to
define
>> more ends, which
>> describe what you think the WMF is about. The
two
> ends
I mentionned
> above a "long term" ends, they would be listed
this
> year, and then next
> year and probably the year after. Not all ends
are
>> this way. We could
>> also have an end valid only one year, or only 3
>> months.
>> Let us say we want a BIG technical meeting
around
>> Mediawiki to occur in
>> the next 6 months, it would be one END.
>> Or we want to produce a DVD of the english high
>> quality content, it
>> could be another END.
>> Actually, hiring an ED could also be an end :-)
>>
>> Now, before you tell me "eh, we elected you
guys
to
>> think of that for
>> us", my answer will be "no, you elected us to
>> represent your dreams
>> about WMF, and to make sure your dreams
happen".
> So,
what I am currently asking you is
>
> "What do you want Wikimedia Foundation to focus
its
> attention on in the
> next few months, few years or more".
>
> Whether you are members on the "paper" (bylaws)
or
> not, morally, you are
> the owners of the organization. I do not think
the
> editors represent the
> only owners, but the editors definitly are part
of
>> the owners. So, I ask
>> you your opinion as owners.
>>
>> What do you think we should achieve ? If you
had
5
> points to list, what
> would they be ?
>
>
> ant
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