By the way a certain degree of accountability is needed.
There cannot be any privacy for "wikingers" or people bringing cyberbulling
to wiki.
Vito
2017-06-06 2:10 GMT+02:00 Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com>om>:
As far as I can tell (and from comments made in the
past by actual Tor
users), there is no problem whatsoever for Tor users to read Wikipedia
while using Tor. Editing is a completely different situation - and well it
should be, given the pure unadulterated trash that tends to come in
whenever a Tor exit node is missed in the routine lockdowns.
I recognize the concerns about ISP tracking and what I assume most
Wikimedians would consider inappropriate use of their browsing
information. I understand why more and more Wikimedians are electing to
use VPNs and other more secure methods of accessing the internet. But VPNs
are also heavily abused - not just by socks, but by individuals who
consciously and intentionally disrupt projects - and thus more and more of
them are getting locked in "only accounts can edit" or even "only IPBE
can
edit" mode - often on a global basis, not just one individual wiki. It
occurs to me that we can probably be more liberal in handing out IPBE -
which covers both Tor users and VPN users. It's not an idea situation,
since people have to establish their account history before anyone's going
to hand them IPBE, but it is probably better than nothing. And yes, the
place to ask is at Global IPBE, because getting IPBE on only one project is
unhelpful if one also pitches in elsewhere (Wikidata, Commons, etc.).
Risker/Anne
On 5 June 2017 at 19:34, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:
Cristian Consonni wrote:
I have read several discussions on the topic
(going back to 2006) and
what I have understood from those is that the biggest issue with editing
via Tor is sockpuppeting.
This Phabricator comment you found seems pretty useful:
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71333#728636>.
And Faidon posted in November 2014 about the establishment of a Tor
relay:
November/079392.html
How does your proposal interact (if at all) with the existing Tor relay
set up in late 2014?
It's unclear to me whether "Tor onion service" in this context is
equivalent to a Tor exit node. I'm fairly sure setting up the latter has
been discussed previously on wikimedia-l and/or wikitech-l.
MZMcBride
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