" To distribute many of the function now at WMF in SF to different
locations in the world (whereof 50% in Global south)" - Distributing work
now being paid with US wages to US staff at SF to people at the Global
South paying "Global South wages" sounds a lot like moving the factories
from San Francisco to Dhaka because wages are much lower there, while
parading it as moving towards "diversity" and "inclusion".
Paulo
Anders Wennersten <mail(a)anderswennersten.se> escreveu no dia segunda,
12/08/2019 à(s) 18:31:
I want to express my appreciation for the work being
done and the result.
I am not able to get to grips with all parts of the recommendation but
as I understand there are two key messages:
*To distribute many of the function now at WMF in SF to different
locations in the world (whereof 50% in Global south). I find this is
most appropriate, both to lessen the feeling of We-them, but also to get
more salaried people spread over the World. It is also a natural
development as out organisation mature over time
*To really go, without any compromise for the discussion in the movement
in our communities must be held in a civil tone and in a friendly
atmosphere where respect for everyone is a key. I believe also this is
long overdue and necessary when we now are over 15 years of age.
I love these two issues and hope it will be implemented in full.
Anders
Den 2019-08-12 kl. 17:51, skrev Nicole Ebber:
Dear all,
We would like to offer further clarification that the recommendations for
Wikimedia 2030 [1] that were shared earlier with you are indeed drafts.
They represent discussions around a wide array of topics that the nine
thematic working groups, affiliates and communities had identified
important for our movement’s future. They are the product of
conversations
over many months with a variety of stakeholders,
and the working groups
are
eager to hear from you. The draft recommendations
are neither final nor
complete, but a continuation of an ongoing conversation happening across
wikis, platforms, surveys, meetings, and meet-ups. As such, constructive
feedback and solution-oriented suggestions are welcomed. The draft
recommendations are based on contexts that deserve due review and
reflection, and are the result of the efforts of many, rather than single
individuals.
Many of the draft recommendations underline structural changes needed for
the growth and expansion of a movement like ours. Many are representative
of wider societal, historical and global dynamics around us. Please take
the time to review the draft recommendations in their entirety, pose
questions, hear from others, and in the spirit of collegial
collaboration,
offer suggestions that you think can address the
issues at hand. This is
a
process for all of us to shape our shared future,
together; let’s keep
engaging and challenging one another in this same spirit.
Best wishes,
Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recomme…
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 15:49, Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> "And just to keep this on track, what is your view on how we can
> incorporate
> indigenous knowledge without it becoming commercialised by the current
> licensing scheme?"
>
> We can't and no one can.
>
> Knowledge, ideas, and concepts cannot be copyrighted to begin with. Now,
> specific expressions of those ideas certainly can be, but the underlying
> facts and ideas cannot. If the expression of those ideas is to be on
> Wikimedia, they must be under an open content license, allowing reuse
> without regard to purpose. If someone would prefer to put their work
under
> an NC license, then a free-content project is
not the appropriate place
for
> it. Many other places are happy to accept
NC-licensed material. But even
> then, reuse of the concepts and facts cannot be prohibited no matter
what
> one does.
>
> Todd
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:47 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Please don't generalise frustration with your
conduct on this list.
You're
the only one telling people to shut up here.
And just to keep this on track, what is your view on how we can
incorporate
indigenous knowledge without it becoming
commercialised by the current
licensing scheme?
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