Hi Ziko,
When WMPT was forced by AffCom early this year to change the old chapter
agreement we had signed in 2009 for a new one, which we were told was the
current model for everyone, the main difference between the two was
precisely the end of the chapter hegemony over the national territory. We
were told, back then, that those were the new rules. You can read it here:
Personally, I don't mind that in the least. If some caution is taken by
AffCom, e.g., to not approve rogue affiliates which at it's very inception
are already at war with the national chapter (or "post/pre"-chapter
affiliate, as AffCom has done in Brazil back in 2015, causing all the mess
everybody knows), all is cool. Spain has already something like 5 or 6
affiliates, and they seem to live happily in peace. If it works, let it go.
Best,
Paulo
Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk(a)gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 7/10/2019 à(s)
12:50:
Sorry, people, but I would like to read an official
statement of the WMF
(committee) what is the reason or rationale behind this policy to accept WM
user groups in countries where you already have a chapter. Does anybody
have a link?
Kind regards
Ziko
Am Sa., 5. Okt. 2019 um 19:16 Uhr schrieb Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulosperneta(a)gmail.com>gt;:
Hi Farhad,
Very interesting, thank you very much for sharing your insight.
The advantages at an organizational level are quite obvious, indeed, and
it's a smart way to deal with those membership limitations.
I'm glad that the WMF & Wikimedia is abandoning the very rigid chapter
model as the preferred one, and is evolving into more flexible and
nuanced
options and varieties, such as those
confederations.
Best,
Paulo
Фархад Фаткуллин / Farhad Fatkullin <frhd(a)yandex.com> escreveu no dia
sábado, 5/10/2019 à(s) 15:38:
Hi folks,
I can probably comment this, as a member of both Wikimedia Russia and a
Tatar language-specific UG.
On top of participation in Wikimedia Language Diversity initiative on
meta, I am also contemplating and working towards starting a
territory-specific UG for my region + an incubator UG for more
language-specific UG in the languages of Russia.
Wikimedians of Russia seem to see the matreshkas of (1) "global
conference
- regional conference - topic-specific
conferences" & (2) WMF &
affiliates
general meeting - national chapters - UGs"
as natural structures, each
addressing different tasks, having different priorities, whilst
cooperating
in various projects.
* Wikimedia Russia legal requirements (in-person quorum for
decision-making, etc.) doesn't allow us to accept into membership all
members of all our regional, language or topic specific UGs. So our
chapter
> is evolving towards a mixed confederation status, selectively welcoming
> some members from various groupings around Russia (which themselves
can't
be
neither cells nor branches of WMRU).
* SPB is not purely a city, but a one of 85 provinces (read states) of
the
> Russian Federation (like my home Republic of Tatarstan, neighbouring
> Republic of Bashkortostan with its Bashkir Wiki-grandmas, or a city of
> Moscow).
>
> * Once we will spin out UG MSK, we will complete transforming Wikimedia
> Russia into a collective entity for join tasks, working on
national-level
advocacy
& other projects.
* We currently have 5 existing UGs, have two more filed & at least one
more at the preparation stage - as this is a good way to engage locally
or
> topically interested public into Wikimedia universe.
>
>
> regards,
> farhad
>
> --
> Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин Тел.+79274158066 / skype:frhdkazan
/
Wikipedia:frhdkazan / Wikidata:Q34036417
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