Hoi,
When the only reason why chapters cannot overlap is because of a fear that a
commercial organisation plays one chapter against another, I fail to agree
that this is a good reason. Obviously chapters are involved in such
negotiations, that is not the point.
I am quite ok with chapters being different. What I fail to understand is
what it is that chapters are expected to do. Let me sketch a scenario. A
Dutch group wants their chapter only to be a society while another group
wants to organise things engage in dialogue with archives, musea. These two
visions are worlds apart. When you are unlucky you end up with a fight. When
both groups can do their thing, there is no need for this. When the WMF
prohibits two organisations, it will be a recurring fight.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/1/20 Ting Chen <wing.philopp(a)gmx.de>
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
So the only reason why chapters cannot overlap is possible commercial
nastiness ???? Does the NYC have a license to negotiate as much as
another
USA (sub)-chapter have.
Yes, inside their
own areas.
What is left for the Wikimedia Foundation itself
?
Why, the WMF has enough things to do, and in my opinion can still do more.
But what the WMF don't want to be is very clear it doesn't want to be a
USA-chapter.
How do you make commercial organisations split
along "our" lines ?
I don't quite understand this question. The german chapter for example
had long doing commercials in Germany if you will.
As I learn more about chapters, I come to my
conclusion that they are a
confused hodgepodge of conflicting ideas. The notion what the essence of
a
chapter is is no longer clear at all. I would
really LOVE some clear
structured text that explains the notion of the chapter and explains what
its responsibilities are.
Gerard, the world is not a unity (may I say thank Gods for that?). What
works in Germany may not work in Taiwan, may not even work in France or
the Netherlands. As someone had already pointed out in this thread, the
french chapter is very different as the german. So, there would be NO
clear definition of how a standard chapter should look like. The ChapCom
has a set of criterias before it would recommend an organisation to the
board as a chapter. That's it mainly.
Greetings
Ting
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