Hoi, When the only reason why chapters cannot overlap is because of a fear that a commercial organisation plays one chapter against another, I fail to agree that this is a good reason. Obviously chapters are involved in such negotiations, that is not the point.
I am quite ok with chapters being different. What I fail to understand is what it is that chapters are expected to do. Let me sketch a scenario. A Dutch group wants their chapter only to be a society while another group wants to organise things engage in dialogue with archives, musea. These two visions are worlds apart. When you are unlucky you end up with a fight. When both groups can do their thing, there is no need for this. When the WMF prohibits two organisations, it will be a recurring fight. Thanks, GerardM
2009/1/20 Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, So the only reason why chapters cannot overlap is possible commercial nastiness ???? Does the NYC have a license to negotiate as much as
another
USA (sub)-chapter have.
Yes, inside their own areas.
What is left for the Wikimedia Foundation itself ?
Why, the WMF has enough things to do, and in my opinion can still do more.
But what the WMF don't want to be is very clear it doesn't want to be a USA-chapter.
How do you make commercial organisations split along "our" lines ?
I don't quite understand this question. The german chapter for example had long doing commercials in Germany if you will.
As I learn more about chapters, I come to my conclusion that they are a confused hodgepodge of conflicting ideas. The notion what the essence of
a
chapter is is no longer clear at all. I would really LOVE some clear structured text that explains the notion of the chapter and explains what its responsibilities are.
Gerard, the world is not a unity (may I say thank Gods for that?). What works in Germany may not work in Taiwan, may not even work in France or the Netherlands. As someone had already pointed out in this thread, the french chapter is very different as the german. So, there would be NO clear definition of how a standard chapter should look like. The ChapCom has a set of criterias before it would recommend an organisation to the board as a chapter. That's it mainly.
Greetings Ting
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