On 9/22/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/07, Florence Devouard
<Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Communication: we spent the entire past year
trying to make it clear
that the two organizations were unrelated. It is not to our benefit to
be confused with Wikia.
Certainly not. But I don't see how them donating office space would
cause any more of such confusion.
I prefer that Sue chooses the office space she thinks is the best for
our needs, and feel free to move to another as soon as she thinks it is
necessary. No ties is much better.
OK, good point. I guess you're right about that.
Last, whether there are people both working at Wikia
and at the arbcom
is completely irrelevant to the Foundation itself.
The foundation doesn't care about the arbcom? That seems...really wrong.
Do not put words in my mouth that I did not say Anthony.
If one staff member of Microsoft was also a volunteer on the arbcom,
would it tie us to Microsoft somehow ?
Yes, I think it would, to some extent. Of course, Microsoft has a lot
of employees compared to Wikia, so unless it's [[Ray Ozzie]] or
something it'd be to a smaller extent.
As I said earlier, the days of Michael on the board
are counted. He does
not have time for this role any more, so this will no more be an issue.
Jimbo... though at Wikia... is hardly in SF himself. Besides, I see no
reason why he would go to the office on a regular basis. That's not his
role any more. In short, there is no reason for an overlap.
And I would not be in favor of ANY overlap for the reasons above
mentionned.
What do you mean by that? You'd prefer for Jimbo to resign from one
or the other organization? If so, yeah, that'd be a good start.
No overlap at the organization level. Jimbo is *very* careful to avoid
any conflict of interest, and abstain from voting or even giving opinion
each time there might be one.
First of all, you need to add the word "now" between "is" and
"*very*"
if you want me to take you at all seriously, because from what I've
heard he certainly did not do during the early years of the board.
Secondly, conflicts of interest don't just happen at board meetings.
It would be a very bad idea for Jimbo to quit any of
the two organizations :-)
We disagree :-(
Combined with
Michael's resignation and removal of Wikia from the
interwiki link table (or at least from the special nofollow
treatment), and then maybe a statement that there are no relationships
between Wikia and the WMF could be taken seriously (I don't know for
sure, but maybe). But as of now, it's just not a serious statement.
/me shakes head
<sarcasm>up and down in agreement?</sarcasm>
At least this
"relationship" would be to the benefit of the WMF.
I disagree with that
statement.
It seems you were confused as to what I was suggesting, though. If it
was just two offices next door to each other, would it be OK? I think
it would be, but maybe you're right that it wouldn't.
What you suggested was not two offices next to each other, but them
donating office space to us.
True, which I guess they could do without the offices even being
remotely close to each other. But what I had in mind was two offices
next to each other. Anyway, I now agree with you that it's probably
not a good idea.