Being the spokesperson, the statement is by and large correct, although not given in this context but as a reply to a content-related question from one day earlier. It was used in the linked news source articel, to which the teacher's association reacted within an hour. As I've written elsewhere, this was clearly spun. Unusually aggressive move. The association demands that Wikipedia and all free-of-charge eduational services be "stopped", being unfit for school children. It also demands that printed encycopledias be reintroduced to schools and school libraries be better funded, ...printed material, that is.
Best Michael
2014-06-02 23:06 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com:
Returning briefly to NSFW content on Wikimedia sites, there has been some press coverage in Germany these past couple of days:
http://www.news4teachers.de/2014/06/jugendgefaehrdend-porno-links-in-wikiped...
http://www.news4teachers.de/2014/06/die-porno-links-in-wikipedia-ein-politis...
http://www.news4teachers.de/2014/06/porno-links-in-wikipedia-deutscher-lehre...
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Lehrerverband-erzuernt-ueber-Porno-Li...
http://www.noz.de/deutschland-welt/politik/artikel/479778/lehrerverband-krit...
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/pornografie/porno-alarm-bei-wikipedia-lehrer-...
http://www.wa.de/nachrichten/nrw/lehrer-nachrichtenseite-news4teachersde-kri...
http://derstandard.at/2000001726824/Deutscher-Lehrerverband-alarmiert-von-Po...
Apparently, the German Teachers' Association has called on the German Education Minister and Wikipedia to take action.
What I found surprising here, given the history of the topic within the Wikimedia movement, was the response from a Wikimedia Germany spokesperson in the first article linked above:
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Asked about this content by News4teachers.de, those in charge of Wikipedia in Germany point to the U.S. parent company. A spokesman told our editors: "As a matter of fact, we at Wikimedia Germany have no influence on what is to be found on Wikipedia and its sister projects (such as the free media portal, Wikimedia Commons). All of these sites are hosted and managed by the Wikimedia Foundation in the U.S."
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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Thyge ltl.privat@gmail.com wrote:
2014-05-29 7:46 GMT+02:00 Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com:
- I'm quite capable of thinking for myself. I am truly interested in
protecting children and preventing harassment. And I'm particularly interested in the current state of the policies around these issues as the leadership of the WMF changes. Old discussions might contain outdated information. I could go on-wiki to see the current policies, but I keep having to reply to mails like these that somehow attribute a bunch of opinions to me that I've never expressed.
I'm still trying to understand what I've done wrong here. I've basically asked some questions and replied to posts that either were directly addressed to me (as yours is here), or made extensive reference to me (as some of the mails calling for my blocking). Let me ask you a simple question that may help me understand where you are coming from: do you find the questions themselves personally upsetting?
Thanks again! ,Wil
Wil, if the discussions are outdated, so are the questions, since they for years already have been considered at length on-wiki with a lot of spill-off here.
In order to make progress in any direction, new suggestions that can
obtain
consensus are needed. As far as I can see, you raise old questions
without
apparently showing interest in the comprehensive past treatment and
without
presenting any new point of view or a perspective that points to a solution. In addition, as I and others have remarked earlier, the questions basically belong to meta and not on this list.
This is what I feel you 'have done wrong' and - since that takes away
from
my available time and from my reading about other topics here - that is what upsets me. Regards, Thyge _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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