WMF staff are certainly contributors within the technical spaces. There's
no reason why they shouldn't be able to participate in the COC formation
process (which I have unrelated concerns with...)
A lack of other community members participation is perhaps half on a lack
of advertising, and half on a lack of interest.
Adrian Raddatz
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:12 PM, quiddity <pandiculation(a)gmail.com> wrote:
* The people in the WMF and the Affiliates are /part
of/ of the
communities.
* Even the people without extensive years of volunteering, or those who
only started volunteering at the same time as they became professionally
involved, are part of the communities.
* It is illogical for us to tell the people who take on highly-active
roles, that they are no longer able to lead.
* We (collectively) try to encourage the extremely capable volunteers to
apply for jobs, and for grants.
* If Wikimedia Cascadia becomes a well-funded chapter, and you were a
staffer of it, would you become ineligible to lead proposals that effect
your area of activity?
--
quiddity
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Let me rephrase and elaborate on that point.
Phabricator and MediaWiki
aren't the WMF wiki. I think that WMF employees' proposals, comments,
questions, and suggestions can be welcome for TCoC drafting. However, in
terms of process leadership and in terms of proportion of input, I would
like to see -- and I think that the proposal would be more likely to pass
an RfC on adoption for the whole document -- community leadership of the
process, and a greater proportion of community input.
Pine
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Erik Bernhardson <
ebernhardson(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A point I should make is that I think that Matthew and others made
some
>
good-faith efforts with the current draft. I would have proposed far
less
> > WMF involvement with the draft
>
>
> One thing I just don't understand here, why should the people that
> participate in technical spaces more than most (because it's their job
to
do so)
not be involved?
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