Hi Gerard,
I found this finance report interesting, especially in light of discussions
at WMCON. I'll have more to say later but I'm pretty swamped in projects at
the moment. I may try to add some thoughts about this finance report into
my piece about WMCON that I'm writing for the Signpost.
Pine
On Jun 11, 2015 12:49 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
it strikes me that when one of the principal activities of chapters is
omitted, the relative value of this research is reduced.
When you consider that it is EXACTLY the time I had to spend re reporting
that I will think hard to apply again that considering it out of scope is
also really bad business.
For me you have a report that I find hard to understand what it is I take
away from it. What is left as a lesson learned that I care about?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 10 June 2015 at 00:10, Lene Gillis <lgillis(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Thank you for all your supportive feedback, we
really appreciate it.
@ Tomasz - This is definitely something we will discuss further. We
replied
to your question on meta and welcome further
comments related to this on
meta.
@ Pine, Claudia - For 2013, the volunteer and staff time spent on
applying
for and reporting about WMF grants was not within
the scope of our
financial report. The focus was mainly on aligning the financial data
that
were in the financial statements of the chapters.
We will consider if
including the estimate of volunteer and staff time spent on applying for
and reporting about WMF grants would fall within the scope of the report
if
this is to be repeated.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Great job and very interesting.
>
> I had this tought during sending you data for Wikimedia Polska, so I
want
> to share it here as well. In the report
there is no "projects" entry
for
costs but
only "events" and "organizational development". Chapters are
doing not only events but also projects leading to improvement of free
content and data - such as colaboration with GLAMs, software
developement,
developement of wikidata, microgrant systems etc,
which are hard to be
called "events" and they are also not "organizational developement".
I
would suggest to add to future reports positions "content and software
improvement projects" or something similar. I think especially for
thematic
> organizations it is the core of their activity.
>
>
>
> 2015-06-08 19:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Guss <mguss(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
>
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > After 8 months, over 400 line items and an infinite amount of
emails, I
am
very pleased to let everyone know that we the
finance fellows have
completed our movement-wide financial report. It is now available for
everyone to read on meta and download.
Here is the link:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Movement-wide_Financial_Report
> >
> > I have to offer my sincerest gratitude to everyone involved with the
> > release of this report. Thank you to all the participating chapters
who
> > helped make this report possible. We
cannot express our appreciation
> enough
> > for your helpful responses and guidance to develop this final
product.
> > Hopefully, this report proves
insightful for you and help us begin to
> think
> > about more consistent financial reporting.
> >
> > Thank you Community Engagement, especially Jaime Anstee, Edward
Galvez,
>
Winifred Olliff and Katy Love for your guidance throughout this
process.
> >
> > But last and not least, thank you to all volunteers who participate
in
> the
> > Wikimedia projects. Despite the fiscal emphasis of this report, it is
> your
> > work that is most important and completely invaluable to the
movement.
> > Hopefully, you too will find this
report useful.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Walter Alejandro Gomez Segura <
> > wagsegura(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Pine,
> > >
> > > Yes, we would like to discuss it. The main goal of this project is
to
> >
prompt questions, so further along we will carry out a discussion
about
> > > this report and try to get as much feedback as we can from the
> community.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Walter Gomez Segura
> > > *Finance Fellow*
> > > *149 New Montgomery St., San Francisco, CA., 94105*
> > >
www.wikimediafoundation.org
> > > wagsegura(a)wikimedia.org
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Lene,
> > > >
> > > > OK, thanks for the update. As you can tell, I am very interested
in
>
your
> > > work.
> > >
> > > I am sensitized to anything having to do with Meta-type
documentation
> and
> > > deadlines at the moment, seeing as I am juggling so many of them
with
> > > > intricate dependencies (including weekend projects), but I
suppose
> that
I
> > > will just need to wait until April for this particular report.
> > >
> > > I am very glad that this report is being done. Perhaps we will
have
a
> > > > chance to discuss it during an office hour in April?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Pine
> > > >
> > > > *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep
> rock
> > of
> > > > our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear
> water
> > > we
> > > > must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile
earth,
> in
> > > > which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And
the
>
broad
> > > fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much
we
> do
> > > not
> > > > know.*
> > > >
> > > > *—Catherine Munro*
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Lene Gillis <
lgillis(a)wikimedia.org
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Pine,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your inquiry and for following up the status of
this
> > > > project.
> > > > >
> > > > > We’ve updated the information on our meta page[1], so that it
is
> more
> > > > clear
> > > > > to everyone. We would like to clarify that the Draft Report is
a
> > > > > finalization of the raw
dataset and is not intended to be
> published.
> > We
> > > > are
> > > > > currently focusing on representing the data, so that everyone
can
> easily
> > > understand the outcomes of our project. This will be revised
internally
> > and
> > > the outcome of that will be the Final Report, which will be
published
> > in
> > > > April.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Lene
> > > >
> > > > [1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement-wide_Financial_Report
> >
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