link. I've been a
Wikimedian for four years, and not once stumbled across that. You learn
something new every day...
As for the "educational products" phrase, my feeling is yes, the community
on-wiki doesn't tend to think of the projects *literally* as products. But,
from my experience, the use of the phrase is simply part of a larger trend
of referring to websites and families of sites as a product. As in, the
point of a primarily Web-based institution being to deliver the site/sites
as a product to visitors. That spirit has already been something that marks
Wikimedia projects as different from most wikis I think, whether or not we
literally refer to them that way.
[[User:Steven:Walling]]
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome, Jennifer. The current foundation-l traffic
isn't quite as
vibrant an intro to the community today as it was in 2005 or so. I
hope you will share your thoughts, even unformed!
For a historical taste, don't forget to visit the nostalgia wiki:
http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org
...and even
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiPedia
Trends across the life of the projects are important; a lot of us
spend time reflecting on what was best, whether changes since then
have been good or bad for coherence, growth, quality, and fun. I
wonder in particular why we haven't developed new projects lately -
there are many out there that fit naturally into the original
wikiethos, and the newer foundation mission.
SJ
ps - It is disconcerting to hear Wikipedia and sibs referred to as
'educational products' and materials. I mean, do we have products? I
don't think the projects see themselves as such; though there are
occasional products that emerge (such as 3D wiki globes... TC/Theo:
can we get another run of those?!)
pps - A general note - it would be nice to see links to people's user
accounts when they are introduced, whether they are advisors, staff,
friends of the wiki, or Editors of Unusual Size...
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jennifer Riggs <jriggs(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
This being Volunteer Appreciation week in the US,
I thought it was a
great chance for me to post to this list and post a Wikimedia blog
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/04/20/volunteer-appreciation/. I want to
thank everyone for being so welcoming. I am very excited about this
organization and this job working to support such an amazing group of
volunteers!
I've been reading along on some important community issues discussed
here and am learning so much. I look forward also to hearing
perspectives on the list about issues around diversifying and further
globalizing Wikimedia's free educational products and material. I am
very volunteer-centric when it comes to my big thinking about direction,
activities and products. So, I will be relying on you to help frame the
Foundation's volunteer support in a way that will be most beneficial in
your efforts to achieve our community's goals.
I look forward to meeting you as individuals as I go.
Jennifer Riggs - CPO Wikimedia Foundation
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