Hi Ziko,
There is in fact a rationale within the text of the recommendation. In
essence, it's that some communities will never share their heritage if it
can then be re-used in a manner they consider disrespectful.
Of course one can disagree with that statement on a factual level, or ask
for evidence behind it.
Or one can agree with it but disagree with the intention of the
recommendation.
Or one can agree with the intention, but disagree about the the
effectiveness of allowing some NC or ND content on some Wikimedia projects
as a method of achieving it.
What is rather less constructive is gathering pitchforks and flaming
torches against the OUTRAGE of THE WMF making every Wikimedia project
immediately accept unfree content.
Chris
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019, 17:25 Ziko van Dijk, <zvandijk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Am Mo., 12. Aug. 2019 um 17:51 Uhr schrieb Nicole
Ebber <
nicole.ebber(a)wikimedia.de>gt;:
Dear all,.
As such, constructive
feedback and solution-oriented suggestions are welcomed.
Hello Nicole,
For example, if I say that I am against NC and ND content on Commons, would
such a feedback be welcome? Or would it be dismissed as not "constructive"
and not "solution-oriented"?
Maybe you can explain to me what the actual problem is that is supposed to
be solved by ND and NC content?
Kind regards
Ziko
> specific expressions of those ideas
certainly can be, but the
underlying
facts and
ideas cannot. If the expression of those ideas is to be on
Wikimedia, they must be under an open content license, allowing reuse
without regard to purpose. If someone would prefer to put their work
under
an NC license, then a free-content project is not
the appropriate place
for
> it. Many other places are happy to accept NC-licensed material. But
even
> then, reuse of the concepts and facts cannot
be prohibited no matter
what
one
does.
Todd
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:47 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky(a)gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Please don't generalise frustration with your conduct on this list.
> You're
> > the only one telling people to shut up here.
> >
> > And just to keep this on track, what is your view on how we can
> incorporate
> > indigenous knowledge without it becoming commercialised by the
current
> > licensing scheme?
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