Hoi, Sorry if I am not clear. My understanding of the mail I replied to was the point that the Germans were their usual self in their reaction to the Visual Editor and were punished for that. THIS is in my opinion not the case. The argument was about dismissing Pavel in such a way that it cost tons of money and without any noticable effect..
The fact that the German Wikipedia is not performing well has more to do with the conservatism of the Wikipedia community and is not attributable to the chapter. What is happening in Sweden is something that is known to me but I do not know about any research or other papers that explain what it is exactly what is happening there.. Such papers would help chip away at the archaic stance of many German Wikipedians. IMHO they are wrong in many ways but having papers explaining what it is EXACTLY what they have right and wrong would be really valuable. Thanks, GerardM
On 24 November 2014 at 07:59, Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se wrote:
Gerard Meijssen skrev den 2014-11-24 07:18:
Hoi, This is not at all what is considered.
I wonder where you source for this comes from. I has been a member of FDC even if not any longer. The Board stated last December that investment in chapter must show clearer impact. Lila did just a few week issued a statement on the importance that impact can be proven in hard figures
WMDE have been acting as a chapter longer than any other and run a lot of programs, like educating enormous amount of people and having a huge staff of community support people. To then show the biggest decline of editors is surely a critical thing in the evaluation of their proposal. And the decline could be seen even before the issue of superprotect right. and also worse then can be seen in Austria, also working on dewp.
Anders
It is about Pavel being dismissed
without a good alternative or any practical vision to move forward. Thanks, GerardM
move on
On 24 November 2014 at 00:55, Juergen Fenn <schneeschmelze@googlemail.com
wrote:
2014-11-23 14:59 GMT+01:00 Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se:
The decline in editors are among the steepest of any community
I would like to say that the German chapter is not really responsible for the recent decline of editors in German Wikipedia. This is due to the introduction of the superprotect right. It is Lila Tretikov and Erik Möller alone who are to be held responsible for that. Many of us have lost interest in editing much after the scandal, and there is nothing WMDE can do in order to turn this around. The German-speaking community will probably not recover from this blow. The ball lies in the bay area, and it has not been played since September.
Regards, Jürgen.
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