Hoi,
My beef is that it is a question that does not go away, that has been asked
for the umpteenth time. It comes across as very self defeating for us as a
movement because it is not what will benefit us most and it seems like a
"safe" subject because it takes away from real issues..
In my experience far more problematic are the quality issues with
Wikipedia. Many easy to implement improvements like doing away with red
links and wiki links and replace them Wikidata items are just not
considered. We face a lot of opposition from vested interests and the
quality on many subjects seriously suffers. This does translate into
information that is detrimental to our readers.
Yes, other people may have different perspectives but given the lack of
progress even an unwillingness to tackle many issues my perspective is that
it is so far removed from what we should be doing and I am convinced that
it will do us no good, it will splinter us more than bring us together.
My hope is not in whatever committee that commits to group think. My hope
is that we are true to what we are about and that is share in the sum of
all knowledge. At this time we do not even share the sum of the knowledge
that is available to us.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 26 July 2016 at 07:39, Christophe Henner <chenner(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hey,
The question is not on the table right now.
We're working to perform a gouvernance audit, board composition will be
part of it.
Now, my personal opinion is it's neither urgent nor critical. And on top of
that I'm not sure it would be a good idea.
All that being said, I'm sure it will come up during the gouvernance
review.
And yes I missed it, sorry. Gérard, no need for such email, just, as Pine
did, reask the question :)
Have a nice day
Le 26 juil. 2016 6:54 AM, "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi BGC,
I asked a question earlier in this thread which seems to have been
overlooked. Is the BGC (or the Board as a whole) considering whether the
Founder's seat will become an elected seat in the forseeable future?
Pine
On Jul 20, 2016 21:20, "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Daruisz and all who worked on this.
Looking at the bigger picture, the tone and pace of changes in WMF
governance over the past few months feel like a breath of fresh air. I
hope
that this direction and pace continue.
Speaking of elections and governance, will the Founder's seat become an
elected seat? It may be too early to answer this question, but I hope
that
> the BGC gives it some careful thought.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Pine
>
> On Jul 20, 2016 18:00, "Dariusz Jemielniak" <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl>
wrote:
>
>> Dear members of the Wikimedia community,
>>
>> As you know the board passed a resolution allowing for the creation
of a
>
standing Elections Committee in November of last year [1]. Per the
> implementing resolution, the Board Governance Committee (BGC) has
> appointed
> the initial members from the recommendation of the Executive Director
and
> her staff. We will be starting with 6
committee members:
>
>
> -
>
> User:Ajraddatz
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ajraddatz>
> -
>
> User:Mardetanha
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Mardetanha>
> -
>
> User:Ruslik0
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ruslik0>
> -
>
> User:Philippe
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Philippe
slate
>> -
>>
>> User:KTC <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/KTC>
>> -
>>
>> User:Atropine
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Atropine>
>>
>>
>> They will be joined by two official advisors from the Wikimedia
>> Foundation:
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> James Alexander (Manager, Trust & Safety) from Community Engagement
>> -
>>
>> Stephen LaPorte (Senior Legal Counsel) from the WMF Legal team
>>
>>
>> They will also be working closely with the BGC as a whole and
especially
>
Nataliia and me. Because I may consider applying as a candidate in the
> upcoming community-selection process I will be recusing for any
> discussions
> involving that election[2].
>
> The new committee, along with the BGC, will, of course, be able to
choose
> how many members and advisors they truly need
and how to recruit the
best
> candidates. One of the first orders of
business for the committee will
be
>> to decide on a process for expanding its membership through some form
of
> open
call. While there is an enormous amount of work for the committee
to
> do, it can be expected that they will begin
looking at:
>
>
> -
>
> The selection of a committee Chair
> -
>
> The dates and process for the upcoming community selection process
(and
>> consider shortening the terms and having community elections in
early
>
2017,
> so that the elected members would join the Board at April
meeting[3]).
>> -
>>
>> The method of voting for that process both for the upcoming
selection
>
and the future and
> -
>
> The composition of the board and how to ensure a steady supply of
good
> candidates (in particular, making sure
that the candidates have the
> skills and expertise matching the Board skill matrix while making
sure
> that
> the process is still owned by the community[4]).
>
>
> Just as the BGC is committed to greater transparency (see for example
our
> recent minutes[5]), the committee will likely
consult with the wider
> Wikimedia community in developing and revising election procedures
within
>> the scope of this charter to the greatest extent possible.
>>
>> This day has been a long time coming and is the result of requests
made
by
> multiple different temporary election
committees over the years. I'm
glad
>> to finally see it come to fruition and hope that it will allow our
>> selection process to continue to expand and improve well beyond the
>> record-breaking election we had in 2015.
>>
>> Before I sign off I also wanted to call out the amazing work of the
2015
>
temporary Election Committee[6]. They were put together in 2015 to do
one
> thing: run an election. They did that well
(with almost 3x the
> participation of the next largest year) but then they went well beyond
the
>> call of duty in serving as an advisory body to the board, offering
>> invaluable feedback on how to fill the empty community selected seats
we
> saw
this year. They did not have to do this, but they did it anyway,
and I
> hope that everyone can acknowledge the stress
and courage that took.
>
> Please join me in thanking the 2015 committee and welcoming the new
> standing committee!
>
> Dariusz Jemielniak ("pundit", current Board member)
>
>
> - [1]
>
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Elections_Committee
> - [2] See also my disclosure to the BGC on that matter:
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Commi…
>> - [3]
>>
>>
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-June/084592.html
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Commi…
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Commi…
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015/Committ…
>>
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