Hi Pats,
maybe as a little background: Charles Andres, who you're responding to, is actually an employee of Wikimedia CH. Your response might still be valid - I can't judge that - but it sounds odd to me as a relative outsider :)
Best, Lodewijk
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Patricia Pena ppena@wikimedia.org wrote:
All,
The local chapter processes payments in Switzerland and manages fundraising banners and payment systems implementation. WMF is not running fundraising banners in Switzerland.
If you spot any problems or issues, please do inform the local chapter.
Thanks, Pats
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:35 AM, "charles andrès (WMCH)" < charles.andres.wmch@gmail.com> wrote:
I just try and I am randomly redirected to the localize page or the WMF page…..
Le 27 nov. 2014 à 09:20, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com a
écrit :
The day before yesterday I was presented a fundraising banner in Switzerland which redirects to the donation page of Wmf, contrary the chapters page.
Rupert On Nov 26, 2014 3:18 PM, "Kim Bruning" kim@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
Just following up,
Has WMNL now received the sought information?
sincerely, Kim Bruning
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 08:42:01AM +0100, Lodewijk wrote:
It seems everyone agrees it is an important method (although I'm not
100%
sure that the US based people running the fundraiser fully comprehend
- I
am assuming this is the case), but there seems to be some reason why
the
WMF chooses to not make this option easily available. A reason they
choose
not to disclose, but to be fuzzy about. I'm very sorry about this,
and
as
Liam says, this fits in a trend with the Russian people no longer
being
allowed to donate. Maybe the two are connected, but this is all speculation.
I'm sorry to see these steps back from the more open attitude there
was a
few years back. It feels very much that we are, as a community, being
fed
canned press answers. But then, maybe there's a real need for that
and
there's a huge legal threat to making it easy to donate through bank transfer that cannot be disclosed...
Best, Lodewijk
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kim Bruning kim@bruning.xs4all.nl
wrote:
To amplify:
Paying (business) taxes in The Netherlands now pretty much requires electronic payment to an IBAN Account; a.k.a. it is (now) the
standard,
default, baseline way to make payments at all.
After registering a business, the very next action is to open an
(IBAN)
account. All extant dutch accounts that predate IBAN have been
converted
to IBAN. All administration systems (must(!)) support IBAN.
If you want to do business in the Netherlands, you need to support
IBAN.
Note that many (most?) dutch citizens do not have credit cards or
paypal
accounts.
Further, IBAN is standardized throughout the euro-zone.
iDEAL is nice to have and important. IBAN is a minimal baseline requirement.
sincerely, Kim
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0100, Walter Vermeir wrote: > Op 17-11-14 om 20:28 schreef Lodewijk: > >> you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank
transfer
(using >> an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page > > Historically the structure of bank account numbers are very
different
> from country to country. And making transfers from one bank account
to
> an other bank account, especially internationally, are/where
complex
and
> expensive. > > There is still a lot of room of improvement but nevertheless it has > never been so easy and cheap to do international transfers as now. > > The IBAN system - International Bank Account Number - is active in
a
> fair chunk of the globe. > >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Adoption
> > Inside the EURO-zone , 19 countries, ?? 337 million Europeans ,
people
> can make a bank transfer to an EURO-zone IBAN bank account without > additional expenses. > > Many more outside the EURO-zone can easy make international
payments
to
> an IBAN bank account. That is not free ... but paypal is certainly
not
> free also. The costs are just deducted from your donation. > > > The WMF has always has been a huge fan of payment by credit cards. > Understandable, the WMF is founded in the country of the Credit
card.
> > But that can make you blind to the fact that other people are used
to
> total other payment systems. > > A couple of years ago I discovered that there where still people
using
> cheques in France. That came as a total surprise to me. I remember
my
> dad using cheques 30 years ago. I never came in to contact with a
cheque
> since then. To my knowledge cheques where long gone. History.
Extinct.
> > But ... when you have the financial business concept of the WMF -
when
> you need money beg for it - the donation channel should be tailer
made
> for the specific common way of payment used by the person who is so
good
> to be willing to make an donation. > > Walter > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe:
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