Dear all
I quite agree with Galder here. We should focus on making our own spaces
more inclusive and easier to use rather than jumping to various external
providers for this and that. Let's not forget that existing volunteers and
staff also have to learn to use the new platform. The other issue is the
continued splitting of content and esp. volunteers have to find extra time
to check those other platforms to stay in touch with the movement.
Be well and healthy
Matej
On Sunday, June 12, 2022, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder158(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
Ceill,
I am a big fan of having 'one front door' for people that are trying to
find answers to questions. Having the front door in another building, with
another technology, and once they are in we say them that our building is
the other one, the one that is falling down (but don't visit the basement,
please, is full of money) is the worst of the strategies.
Best,
Galder
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*From:* Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipedia(a)gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:03 PM
*To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
*Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Join the new Movement Strategy Forum
community review
Hi,
First: I am a big fan of having 'one front door' for people that are
trying to find answers to questions they do not know where to ask (last
year's movement communications insights on this
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_communications_insights/Report/Front_door>).
I think a forum, actively moderated by people helping and pointing users to
the right places, would be a huge improvement for community questions and
input. Especially the one-click translation service is imho a big plus in
service in comparison to Meta.
It does however worry me that when I joined the forum last weekend to take
a peek, I stumbled on a thread with a very specific question about Commons
and giving permission via VRT. The thread had multiple replies, but no one
had a real substantial answer. Well, replies were along the lines of 'No,
there is no template for this' and 'This should be discussed on Commons'.
While the answers were somewhat correct, they were obviously not helpful
for the person asking this specific question and, as far as I could tell,
none of the respondents were a member of our VRT teams. So this user was
effectively not helped by posting the question on the forum.
Even more so, because the question on the forum was not noticed by VRT
agents (most of us working on the permissions queues and Commons will have
the /Noticeboard on Commons on our watch list and can be pinged if country
or language specific knowledge or advise is needed for a question), and
secondly it will be more difficult for the people working from our end that
will have to follow up if the person does decide to bring the question to
Commons or VRT after all.
Besides that, with my MCDC hat on, I hope after this trial period we'll
get to see the data on how many people interacted about the Movement
Strategy that we have not heard from in the previous 5 years through any of
the other platforms that are in use to gather feedback. Already trying to
watch several channels with Strategy discussions, I count on the MSG team
to bring back these numbers and a summary of what is being discussed on the
forum back to Meta. Even in a virtual world there is a limit on how many
channels a Wikimedian can watch.
*NB: I see Sj's response crossed mine while I was writing, but let my
example underline the issue of 'no unified notifications' and a possible
problem with 'coherent archiving'. *
*Please also be aware G-translate does not know all languages we have
projects in, some of which are however supported by Yandex that is an
option to choose for the Wikipedia article translation tool already. *
Best,
Ciell