I was referring to the fundraising targets, which have been cited as a cause of the
dispute. WMIT/WLM have explained at length their reasons for needing banners in September.
I am in no position to comment on whether their analysis is correct or not . Fundraising
has not been so forthcoming in response to queries.
Cheers,
Peter
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely
blocked by WMF fundraising
I guess I'm not clear on whether you're asking about the Fundraising targets or
the WLM/WMIT targets, or both. Can you clarify?
My understanding from this email chain is that there will be a deconfliction of banner
space via better scheduling next year. I think that someone suggested setting up a
calendar to track banner use, which might also be helpful.
I think I'll step out of this conversation for the moment, and let the stakeholders
take it from here.
Pine
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Peter Southwood < peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net>
wrote:
One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that
if you have a
near miss incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal
incident would be investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it is
due, but so that the same situation can be avoided in the future.
Organisations that fail to do this are doomed to repeat their
mistakes, not necessarily by the same people, who may well have
learned, but often by other departments, where the people did not get the opportunity to
learn by the mistake.
Refusal to answer reasonable and legitimate questions by stakeholders
often leads to accusations of conspiracy and bad faith and can end in
the local demagogues, of which we have an adequate supply, inciting
the torch and pitchfork brigade. Things may go downhill at this point.
Cheers,
Peter
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From: wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 8:43 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments
in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations
(like the WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community Resources
/ FDC) were working from different playbooks. But now that Fundraising
has agreed to change their plans, I think we should give them some
breathing room, especially because they say that banner scheduling
will be coordinated next year.
Pine
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net> wrote:
Who set the targets that will now not be met, how
were they decided,
and when were they set? I must assume that WLM annual project was
not taken into consideration by these planners.
Cheers,
P
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From: wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
Sent: Thursday, 03 September 2015 10:51 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves
Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
I just want to respond to this point in particular:
"Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first
time in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a
target. The team will pick up extra work in October to make up for
work missed in September.
It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there
will need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for
missing the September target."
It was somewhat courageous for WMF Fundraising to change its
schedule and forecast missing a target as a result. Two quotes seem
appropriate in the context of this conversation, particularly
regarding WMF's taking the community's priorities into account and
absorbing the risks to its plans that come with changing to accommodate WLM:
"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also
what it takes to sit down and listen." -- Winston Churchill.
"Either you decide to stay in the shallow end of the pool or you go
out in the ocean." --Christopher Reeve
Thanks Megan and all.
Pine
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Mathias Damour <
mathias.damour(a)laposte.net
wrote:
> Le 31/08/2015 13:02, Megan Hernandez a écrit :
>
>> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first
>> time in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be
>> meeting a target. The team will pick up extra work in October to
>> make up for work missed in September.
>> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there
>> will need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up
>> for missing the September target.
>>
>
> The WMF team is without any doubt very professional in "meeting
> its target" and in smooth communication.
>
> We should also understand that despite the huge growth of the WMF
> these last few years, it may feel an inferiority complex and think
> it has a backlog to catch up compared to some much richer
> neighbouring companies in the San Francisco Bay ! I guess they
> roughly think: "Why should we have 15 time less employees than
> Twitter !" That's why raising up the fundraising targets can be
> more important than to facilitate a WLM event in just one
> not-so-big country ! :-P
>
> Nevertheless it still give the impression of taking the word-wide
> donors, the volunteers and the other entities (chapters) for
> pawns/chess pieces that you may move or stop whenever you want or
need...
Maybe the
ones to blame are the neighbouring internet companies
for setting a bad example to the WMF... :-\
--
Mathias Damour
[[User:Astirmays]]
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