No, it does not work like this. Large communities are only going to accept
decisions which were discussed with them properly, on their project and in
the two-way interaction mode. The discussions on Meta in the mode "we will
listen to you and then let you know of our decision" are not going to be
accepted. We have had enough recent examples to illustrate this.
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:51 PM Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber(a)wikimedia.de>
wrote:
Dear all,
We would like to offer further clarification that the recommendations for
Wikimedia 2030 [1] that were shared earlier with you are indeed drafts.
They represent discussions around a wide array of topics that the nine
thematic working groups, affiliates and communities had identified
important for our movement’s future. They are the product of conversations
over many months with a variety of stakeholders, and the working groups are
eager to hear from you. The draft recommendations are neither final nor
complete, but a continuation of an ongoing conversation happening across
wikis, platforms, surveys, meetings, and meet-ups. As such, constructive
feedback and solution-oriented suggestions are welcomed. The draft
recommendations are based on contexts that deserve due review and
reflection, and are the result of the efforts of many, rather than single
individuals.
Many of the draft recommendations underline structural changes needed for
the growth and expansion of a movement like ours. Many are representative
of wider societal, historical and global dynamics around us. Please take
the time to review the draft recommendations in their entirety, pose
questions, hear from others, and in the spirit of collegial collaboration,
offer suggestions that you think can address the issues at hand. This is a
process for all of us to shape our shared future, together; let’s keep
engaging and challenging one another in this same spirit.
Best wishes,
Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recomme…
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 15:49, Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
"And just to keep this on track, what is
your view on how we can
incorporate
indigenous knowledge without it becoming commercialised by the current
licensing scheme?"
We can't and no one can.
Knowledge, ideas, and concepts cannot be copyrighted to begin with. Now,
specific expressions of those ideas certainly can be, but the underlying
facts and ideas cannot. If the expression of those ideas is to be on
Wikimedia, they must be under an open content license, allowing reuse
without regard to purpose. If someone would prefer to put their work
under
an NC license, then a free-content project is not
the appropriate place
for
it. Many other places are happy to accept
NC-licensed material. But even
then, reuse of the concepts and facts cannot be prohibited no matter what
one does.
Todd
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:47 AM Philip Kopetzky <
philip.kopetzky(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Please don't generalise frustration with your
conduct on this list.
You're
> the only one telling people to shut up here.
> And just to keep this on track, what
is your view on how we can
incorporate
indigenous knowledge without it becoming
commercialised by the current
licensing scheme?
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